

Marseille Offer Samir Nasri for Hatem Ben Arfa!!!!!
By: Inara | April 28th, 2008Normally, a rumor like this aren’t worth the paper it’s written on. But when L’Equipe gets involved, that means that something is afoot between the Rhone and the French Riviera.
Word is that Marseille would be willing to exchange Samir Nasri for Hatem Ben Arfa. It’s unclear if it would be a straight swap or if some money would be involved (presumably from Lyon). This rumor hasn’t been confirmed by either club, nor has it been denied, which is a sign in itself, since Pape Diouf and Jean-Michel Aulas are always quick to denounce interest in their star players.
The reasoning behind this swap is rather obvious. First, Nasri has voiced his discontent with Marseille’s see-sawing performances and has hinted that if they don’t qualify for the Champions League next year and make a genuine attempt at the title, he would consider leaving (sounds like a certain Franck Ribery).
If you read the excellent Marseille Offside, you’ll also know that Nasri hasn’t been playing anywhere near his best, and his form – and attitude – on the pitch has been downright disappointing.
As for Ben Arfa, he hasn’t been able to get constant playing time, and there are rumors of disagreements between him and Alain Perrin. As such, talks of a contract extension have been stalling. In an effort to play mind games, Diouf publicly said that he couldn’t understand why a player of Ben Arfa’s talent was being wasted on the Lyon bench.
As far as I’m aware, Lyon have not been quite as vocal in their admiration of Nasri, and the one time that rumors linked him with Lyon, Aulas denied them immediately. It’s not that Lyon don’t want Nasri, but Lyon getting Marseille’s star player is next to impossible considering the two are direct domestic rivals. That’s like Liverpool wanting Wayne Rooney. It’s not going to happen.
Nasri knows he can get transferred to the biggest clubs in the world, with Real Madrid and Inter leading the pack for his signature. That he’d agree to move to a Lyon side that is already filled to the brim with midfielders doesn’t make much sense. So I can’t imagine that this swap was his idea. Of course, his best friend in the whole wide world is Karim Benzema, and the two have repeatedly said that they want to play together (Benzema actually invited Nasri to come to Lyon) though the consensus is that they’ll have to wait until they’re at Real Madrid before that dream comes true. Those two together is anyone’s wet dream (but how much nicer would it be if Ben Arfa played alongside them? The Holy Trinity of French Football at the same club would be insane).

Awww….they wub each other.
However, Marseille are thinking of their own financial interests. Nasri’s asking price, which was originally set at €25m in the fall, has dropped steadily, and it seems unlikely that any club would pay more than €15m for him. I can see why Diouf would rather get Ben Arfa for that amount since he won’t get a player half as good from anywhere else.
What’s my take on this? That Marseille are trying to make trouble. They are none to happy that Lyon have jumped ahead of Marseille in the race to sign Miralem Pjanic, who may end up being a better player than Nasri in the long term. I’m guessing Diouf is hoping that dangling Nasri in front of Aulas will make Lyon slow down their efforts to sign Pjanic, which would give Marseille enough time to sneak in a better bid.
Anyway, I would rather keep Ben Arfa than get Nasri just because Lyon are stacked in midfield, and I just don’t know how he’ll fit into the squad. A player of Nasri’s talent has to play frequently, which means that Lyon’s other expensive signings will be forced on the bench. And that’s such a waste of money. But we don’t have a lot of talented left wingers. Aulas and Bernard Lacombe value Ben Arfa very much, and they know that Lyon need him more than Nasri at this point. I’m convinced that once Perrin leaves, a sensible coach would play him more often.
Though I have to admit that if this swap took place, it would be the craziest transfer in the history of Ligue 1. And I would much rather see these two players remain in France than go abroad. If this is what it takes, so be it.
Thanks to Jo for the heads up.
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As much as I like Ben Arfa, I’d really be dismayed to see Nasri playing for a French club that’s not l’OM. Despite his recent fallouts, I just can’t see this happening. It’ll be interesting to see who picks up Pjanic though.
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Thats ridiculous. I really don’t hope Lyon agrees with the offer. That would be taking a step in wrong direction.
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Don’t see it happening. Only because Marseille are looking to sell Nasri anyway (he will probably be gone this summer) as his contract runs until next year and diouf will not let him leave on a free. Aulas is just being diplomatic by saying he isn’t interested in Nasri because if Nasri stayed at Marseille until 2009 and he was allowed to leave on a free, Aulas would be the first one at Nasri’s front steps.
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I don’t think so, Jao.
With our incredible creative midfielders (next year : Ederson, Juninho, Bodmer, probably Pjanic and Crosas), we just don’t need a guy like Nasri.Ben Arfa is far more important than Nasri for our team. And we will sell him twice the price if the (future ???) coach learn how to keep the best of him during one season.
I just CANNOT understand this idea of a swap between Ben Arfa and Nasri !
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Nasri gets injured way too often. Horrible idea.
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There is always room for more midfielders, just ask Manchester United. The only problem would be the egos of the players. Like I said, I am not for the swap. My point was that if Nasri became available, Lyon would show interest, just like Arsenal, Chelsea, Real Madrid, etc., who all have stacked midfields.
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If we get Pjanic, I think we should let Juninho go (I can’t believe I just said that)!
Ederson Bodmer Ben Arfa Pjanic… All can play in place of Juninho… I just don’t see it work if Juninho plays. They won’t get enough playing time!
I am one of Juni’s biggest fan, but we have to make a choice now. Let Juninho tutor Ederson or bring in more AM’s…This summer we will probably see 3 players of importance leave… I don’t want to put any names, but I can see it coming.
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Pride of Lyon you must relax. How hell on earth Pjanic can be infront of Juni? Juni don’t have to score in game, but he is authority of field, Pjanic isn’t. He can cross or pass important balls in every moment of game, Pjanic can’t, and he can score any time, Pjanic can’t. I also have ambition to play for Lyon, I am 19 years old and I’m the best goals scorer in my league, in my category, that is the team under 21. I scored 27 in 32 games only in the league, but I must learn soo soo much to get in the team like Lyon. So Pjanic still need lot of expirience. God damit he is younger than me.
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I’m surprised that Lyon haven’t offered an extension to Juninho like they did with Coupet. Coupet’s offer includes the option of staying on as a coach at Lyon. I would think Aulas would want an emblematic player like Juni to remain at Lyon as well, like Sonny Anderson did.
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Also, Lyon are serious about Pjanic. Bernard Lacombe talked about him on RTL yesterday, and today, OLTV dedicated a segment of their daily show to him. Negotiations must be better than expected if Lyon are so open about Pjanic.
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I am not sure how getting Pjanic makes sense when all the hype is about Remy coming back, Grenier being the next Kaka, and next year being Karaaboue’s year to break into the first team, with Keita, Ben Arfa and Govou still around. That is 6 wingers for two spots, and let us not forgot the under-utilized talents of Anthony Mounier. Obviously Karaaboue, Mounier and Grenier can get loans somewhere, but still, with Pjanic, that 4 right wingers in the squad! Wasteful…
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Corey, I think you forgot to add Delgado- and if Perrin is still around- Benzema to the list of wingers. And what about the situation at CF? How are they going to keep the petulant child Fred happy? I was wondering if it wouldn’t be better to go to a 4-4-2 if Juninho won’t be playing regularly, to accomodate the surplus of midfeilders and the CF problem, but that would still leave several very talented players on the bench. Why don’t they go get a LB instead of wasting more money on midfeilders?
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Juni is likely to be leaving Lyon this summer, but that’s not to stop him coming back later as a coach just like Sonny. Both JMA and Lacombe have heaps of respect for him as a player and on a personal level.
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It’s very funny that Fred was practically going to Tottenham (from Lyon’s perspective) this past transfer window. Now we are asking how can we accommodate him.
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I would be sad if Juninho left. It’s true that we don’t need him as a player that much anymore, but his leadership is still necessary. Having a team full of young and/or new people, no matter how talented they are, isn’t always a good idea. Our team was very unbalanced this year, partially because we sold off players who were team leaders (Wiltord, Cacapa, Abidal, Malouda). We replaced them with mostly better players, but they didn’t have the same impact in the locker rooms, hence the often troubled atmosphere.
Juninho and Coupet are the only ones brave enough to publicly criticize the performance of their own team and aren’t afraid of giving their fellow players reality checks. Seniority and experience is important on any team.
If Juninho leaves, and Coupet as well, who will that leave as a senior player? Don’t forget that we’ll also be losing Muller this summer. So all that’s left are Govou, Cris, and Reveillere (in terms of how long they’ve been at Lyon and their age). Benzema is also a forceful presence on the squad, but he’s still young. Maybe Toulalan and Squillaci will step up, but who else? Keita, Grosso, Boumsong, and Bodmer are still too new, Kallstrom will probably leave, etc.
Plus, Juninho IS Lyon. I just can’t imagine an OL squad without his angry face. In much the same way Raul is Real Madrid, Maldini is Milan, Totti is Roma, Giggs is United. Granted Juninho isn’t a one club man like the others, but he’s as good as. Lyon shouldn’t force him out, even if it’s the logical thing to do.
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I think Juninho should go and p@lay in Brazil for a year or two and then come back to Lyon like Anderson did.
My bet is that this summer we will lose Juninho, Kallstrom, Reveillere and 1 winger (which I don’t know).As for Coupet I really don’t know what to think about it. Ok, he is getting old, but when you look how old Van der Sar or Kahn are, Coupet could still play high level for 2 or 3 years.
We need to keep “old” players to keep the team spirit.
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I seriously doubt we’ll see Juninho leave this summer. I mean, I can see him playing less and less over the next season or two to make way for younger players on the squad, but unless something drastic happens, he will retire here.
my love for lyon is summed up by my love for juni. like Inara said, I couldn’t imagine a Lyon side without his presence.
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Inara I agree that Juni adds a lot as a leader. It always suprises me when players like Govou are made captain. It takes a very special skill set to be a captain and frankly Govou doesn’t have a captains bone in his body, Juni on the other hand is a born leader – he inspires the players; he watches out for the younger ones (he’s really taken Ben Arfa under his wing); he communicates a lot on the pitch; plus he even rallies the fans when necessary (I’ll never forget how he asked the fans to cheer for the corner at this seasons Le Mans match). Commercially he’s also a great asset to the club.
Personally I’d love him to stay and also struggle to imagine OL without him, BUT there seem to be a lot of whispers at Gerland that he will be moving on. More his choice than the club’s, but I think if he does he will return in a couple of years.
Of the others yes there’s Coupet who does play a leadership role. Cris certainly could step into this role and is very commited to Lyon. Not sure about Reveillere. I’d like to think that Toulalan will step into the role more, he certainly commands enough respect but he is rather shy and quiet. In about a year from now I could see Bodmer being a mainstay leader.Posted from
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Right after I read your post, I read an article saying that Inter Milan would be willing to pay 8 million for Juninho. It could be that he does want to leave, though I wonder if the club will allow that – as you said, commercially, he’s very important. Benzema aside, no other OL player commands as much respect or attention.
I can’t remember whether it was Toulalan or Bodmer – most likely it was Toulalan – who said he could imagine doing what Coupet did, which is staying at one club, Lyon, for an entire career. I’d love to believe that, but he’s already a world class player and could walk onto nearly any top side on the planet, and I worry that he’ll eventually be taken away too.
I hate that Lyon is like a foster home for exceptional talents, to be eventually adopted by financially fit (but sometimes unstable) parents.
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