Lyon vs. Manchester United Preview

By: Inara | February 19th, 2008

I don’t know about you guys, but I personally am not ready to face those Mancs. And neither, I think, are the players. I’m being optimistic when I say that things aren’t quite so good over at the Gerland, and it’s obvious that Lyon are nowhere near the form they should be for the Champions League.

But then again, Lyon almost didn’t even make it into the knockout rounds and only managed to qualify on the last day (thanks for choking, Rangers!). And as France’s sole representative in this stage of the competition, maybe that elusive luck will smile once more on the French.

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February 20, 2008
Stade de Gerland, Lyon
2:45 PM Eastern Time (20:45 CET, 19:45 GMT)

Match Background:

L’Equipe published a study today showing the most successful teams in the Champions League in recent years in terms of advancing from the group stages. Lyon comes in at #4, having made it to the round of 16 for five consecutive years (out of nine consecutive years of participating in the tournament). But what the statistics are secretly telling us is that Lyon is the best team out there that doesn’t actually win anything.

Erm.

Lyon always know how to handle the group stages, easily nabbing the top spot despite having clubs like Real Madrid, Bayern, and MU in their groups. It’s only later when Lyon fall apart. But this year, Lyon struggled in the group stages and barely qualified. So maybe the opposite is also true about the knockout rounds.

It’s time that French football regained some of its pride, and what better way than sending that greaseball and his red cohorts home with their tails between their legs? Lyon are the underdogs for the first time in a long time, and they definitely have it in them to be giant killers.

The Teams:

I wish I could be more positive about this match, but Lyon haven’t been very positive lately, have they? In the nine games since winter break, Lyon lost three of them (twice to Le Mans!) while also drawing with St. Etienne. Five wins, you say? Hardly. Three wins were rather laborious (Croix-de-Savoie, Sochaux, Toulouse, Lorient), and the two “easy” victories were against Lorient and fourth division side Creteil. Oh yay.

This year, Lyon have lost NINE (and drawn five) games in all competitions, which is very poor when you look at how Lyon performed in the last few years. In the league, Lyon have scored 48 goals but have conceded 24, which is how many Lyon conceded all of last year. In the Champions League, Lyon scored only 11 goals and conceded 10. Oh, and we picked up 12 yellow cards. So that’s pretty damn bad.

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The Glasgow euphoria is wearing off to reveal more fragility.

On the English side of things, Manchester United have had a pretty good year, garnering only five defeats in all competitions (none of which occurred in the Champions League). They’ve scored 50 goals and have conceded only 14 - currently the best defensive record in the EPL. In the CL, they scored 13 and allowed in just four. All with only five yellow cards accumulated. And let’s not forget their 4-0 walloping of Arsenal over the weekend. (Also, I don’t get the comments coming out of the Lyon camp about how MU don’t like to defend – Bodmer, Perrin, Ben Arfa, Kallstrom. MU seem to have a pretty good handle on defending if you ask me.)

Lyon and MU have faced each other only once before, during the 2004-2005 season in the CL group stages. Lyon and MU tied 2-2 at the Gerland, and MU won 2-1 at Old Trafford, though Lyon ended up topping the group anyway. As English sides go, MU has a poor away record in the Champions League though their overall head to head record against the French is in their favor.

Only the most daring of OL fans would bet against Manchester tomorrow.

It’s true that this year’s Lyon team isn’t as efficient or as impressive as the one of the past few years. It’s also true that Lyon have never looked as unlikely to win the Champions League as they do now (well, since they became a sort of big club). But you know what? This year’s Lyon team, for all its flightiness and unreliability, is also more savage than it used to be. I still stand by my statement that the current team is the strongest Lyon have ever been, and the only thing they need is a respite from injuries and some time to get used to playing each other. But the potential of the squad is undeniable.

Player News:

On the Manchester United front, it turns out that Cristiano Ronaldo’s absence during their game against Arsenal was due to a stomach bug, a problem that has unfortunately been resolved. And guess who else is making his return to France? Well, Patrice Evra, who’s played at the Stade de Gerland several times during his L1 career, will be coming up against former Monaco teammate Sebastien Squillaci. And of course there is Louis Saha will also be among the English group. Geez, I can’t remember the last time I saw Saha in action.

Le groupe mancuniens: Van der Sar, Kuszczak – Brown, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, O’Shea, Simpson, Park, Pique – Hargreaves, Carrick, Scholes, Anderson, Nani, Eagles – Ronaldo, Rooney, Tevez, Giggs, Saha

On the Lyon side of things, our favorite bald headed defender Cris makes his return to the first team. He probably won’t play, but his presence on the bench is all kinds of reassuring. Just looking at pictures from today’s practice, it’s obvious that the players are happy to see Cris again.

Fred, who missed the Le Mans game the previous weekend due to a sore throat, also returns to the first team. By the way, Fred is promising Lyon fans a lot of goals tomorrow. Let’s hope he’s the one scoring them and not MU. Also, Juninho has been declared fully fit. His toe has been iffy for the past few weeks, and those who saw him play against Le Mans over the weekend must have realized that he’s not at peak form.

Le groupe lyonnais : Coupet, Vercoutre – Clerc, Reveillère, Squillaci, Boumsong, Cris, Grosso – Bodmer, Källström, Toulalan, Juninho, Delgado – Ben Arfa, Govou, Keita, Benzema, Fred.

Anthony Mounier and Romain Beynie have been dropped since as youth players, Perrin wouldn’t play them in this match anyway. Also missing is Marc Crosas, who is cuptied in the CL thanks to playing with Barca for 20 minutes last December. Still, looking at the available players, I think this is the strongest squad Lyon have taken anywhere in a long time. I’m not sure yet if things will work out, but at least I have something to hope for, right?

Tactics:

I would love to see Fred and Karim Benzema play together, but it’s unlikely that both of them will start the match. At least I hope not because that will mean that Perrin will force Benzema to play out wide. We aren’t ready for a 4-4-2 just yet.

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Reveillere – Squillaci – Boumsong – Grosso
Juninho – Toulalan – Kallstrom
Govou – Benzema – Ben Arfa

I’m not sure whether I want Anthony Reveillere or Francois Clerc at RB. I’ve always been under the impression that Reveillere is more defensive than Clerc, but assuming Ryan Giggs will be starting for United (it’s his 100th European match, don’t see Alex Ferguson benching him for an unimpressive Nani), perhaps Clerc would be a better option than Reveillere. Although to be honest, neither of them have looked that great over the weekend.

I would LOVE to see Cris start, but he’s only played in one CFA match since his return from injury, and he just isn’t ready yet. So it’ll probably be Boum Boum back there. And considering that he looked rather inept against Le Mans, who knows what will happen against MU. Sebastien Squillaci is our best healthy defender, and Fabio Grosso is our only real LB. So no alternatives there.

But I am happy about midfield and think our middle three can more than handle whomever MU have in the middle of the pitch. Jeremy Toulalan is fricking amazing and will make those Red Devils cry. It’s more of a question on whether Juninho and Kim Kallstrom will be at 100%. They weren’t that impressive over the weekend, so maybe this is the match they need to wake up. It’s also possible that Perrin will start Mathieu Bodmer instead of Kallstrom.

I think our front three have their work cut out for them tomorrow, but they are more than capable of breaching past MU’s defenses. The great thing about Karim Benzema, Hatem Ben Arfa, and Sidney Govou is that they change positions all the time. Ben Arfa likes to make runs up the right hand side despite being assigned to the left wing while Govou prefers the left though he is put on the right. Perrin tends to change them around depending on what sort of players will be opposing them. For tomorrow, Perrin might opt for Govou on the right since he’ll be better able to deal with Patrice Evra. And that will leave Ben Arfa to deal with Wes Brown. Nice.

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My money is on the guy on the left.

Of course everything hinges on how Super!Karim performs. With all those crazy rumors floating around about how Ferguson is interested in him and how he isn’t interested by United, it’s up to Benzema to prove once again that he’s a grounded player and can rise above the occasion.

Viewing Options:

For some weird reason, none of the ESPNs will be showing this match live, and neither will FSC. However, ESPN Deportes will be showing the match on tape delay at 5 PM. If you are a Setanta subscriber, you can watch it live on TV in the US. Otherwise, check out streaming links here (they’ll be posted about an hour before kick off). There should be a ton of sites given the fact that it’s MU we’re playing.

Don’t forget that you can buy a clear stream in several different languages from UEFA/ESPN/Setanta for $7.95.

Expected Results:

I don’t see Lyon escaping with a clean sheet (though that’s what I desperately want). I’m too afraid to predict anything else. You can also tune into this week’s Offside Podcast to hear me discuss Lyon’s chances with Ian, Anne, and Christian. I’m not sure if I mentioned this before, but periodically I will be on the show representing French football. L1 definitely needs more exposure.

And of course….ALLEZ LYONNAIS!!!






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  • japple |  February 19th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

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    i cant believe they wont be playing this game on any of the espns considering its MU.

    anywho…ALLEZ LYONNAIS

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  • Salieri |  February 19th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

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    Yay this will be soo exciting! ALLEZ LYONNAIS

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  • Jao |  February 19th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

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    I am confident in Lyon, especially seeing as they will be at home. I see Lyon winning 2-1 or drawing 1-1. Coupet seems to be struggling to get back in form and has made questionable blunders that clubs like Man U will pounce on.

    Ronaldo scares me alot. Not because of his skills, but because he draws alot of cards, so I expect Toulalan (yellow waiting to happen), Boumsong, Reveilliere, and Squillaci all to pick up yellows or two especially after what happened tonight against Materazzi.

    SAF will likely have Hargreaves and Vidic/Ferdinand doubling Benzema leaving Govou and Ben Arfa to take on Evra and Brown one-on-one, which where I think we have the advantage.

    I say Juninho kicks out the match converting either a free kick or penalty. Tevez equalizing and either Benzema or Govou giving Lyon the lead heading to Old Trafford.

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  • Jennifer |  February 19th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

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    I’m so excited for this game. I agree with you that Lyon was not impressive at all the past weekend, esp. with Juninho and Kim. Benzema isn’t looking that great either, but I’m sure he can whip out something tomorrow.

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  • Pride of Lyon |  February 19th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

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    Ok, now I am not very optimistic for this game, but I think it is still a bit harsh not to be.
    Let’s compare the two teams. Lyon had a very tough group with Rangers, Stuttgart and Barca. Manchester had Roma and Sporting but could get some rest with Dynamo (who were utterly crap this year round). I just give a background for the coming comparison:

    Shots Wide: Lyon 35 – Manchester 41
    Manchester have the edge, but only slightly. it also tells us they shoot from far. We have to close down on them.

    Shots on goal: Lyon 45 (2nd of the competition behind Barca) – Manchester 42
    Despite the none game against Barca on day 1 we are still the 2nd team in the tournament with the most shots on goal… tells you we are far from being crap up front.

    Corners: Lyon 34 – Manchester 47(most corners obtained in the competition).
    This is the stat that worries me the most, Manchester obtain a lot of corners, and I can see them score on set pieces…

    Offside: Lyon 16 – Manchester 11
    Not of any real interest IMO.

    Ball possession: Lyon 30 mins – Manchester 31
    Ball possession: Lyon 48% – Manchester 52%
    The game is going to be really fast on both sides. Lyon and Manchester play similar attacking football.

    Goals scored: Lyon 11 – Manchester 13
    Shows that both teams are great up front. Manchester put more in the back of the net thanks to the inexistance of Dynamo.

    Goals conceeded: Lyon 10 – Manchester 4
    Now, this is for everyone the most important stat. But we have to realize that we conceeded 6 in the first two games… If the everyone works on the defense, we can get away with it I think.

    Yellow cards: Lyon 12 – Manchester 5
    Lyon conceeded 6 yellows against Stuttgart, 4 against Rangers both very physical teams. as for Manchester, 4 of their yellow cards came against Sporting, the only team in their group playing physical football. this tie will be physical, and both teams will commit fouls. the only problem is that some of our players are under the threat of a suspension. So careful guys.

    What I tried to show is that Lyon and Manchester are not so far apart in statistics. still I am not confident, but I hope the players take a grip and play as well as they can.

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  • japple |  February 19th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

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    hard to say which way this match will go at the moment. Lyon will be dominant and can play for the win if they decide to bring themselves up a level from their recent form, and showcase their wonderful attacking style which we all love. but if everyone is having an “off” day, i see lyon conceding two, maybe three goals.

    would have been great if cris had returned to the squad, two, three weeks ago, but thats just how it goes.

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  • Inara |  February 19th, 2008 at 6:52 pm

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    Juninho, Reveillere, and Govou are one yellow card away from being suspended in the second leg. Juninho especially is critical since we can make do without either Anto or Sid.

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  • lefutur |  February 19th, 2008 at 8:19 pm

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    anything could happen. case in point : Liverpool losing to Barnsley over the weekend and then beating Inter by 2 goals today.

    look, i think Lyon can raise their game tomorrow. they didn’t look motivated against Le Mans but who could blame them? they were distracted and noone wanted to get injured ahead of this match-up. the players all say that this is the kind of team that they dream of playing against, they WANTED to play Man United.

    Don’t count them out at all.

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  • Magnusson |  February 19th, 2008 at 8:31 pm

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    THere’s one reassuring thing. Grosso locked CR down during the italy portugal game two weeks ago and could be doing the same tomorrow. Of all the lyon teams ever, this is the more likely to win it.
    Let’s hope Perrin doesn’t pussyfott around after his interview this morning.

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  • Ronald |  February 19th, 2008 at 8:54 pm

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    “Don’t forget that you can buy a clear stream in several different languages from UEFA/ESPN/Setanta for $7.95.” , ehhhh im not always good with things that involve me paying.

    anyway, about the match, im afraid to even see it, but i need to as lyon is my team, and i MUST support my team through thick and thin. Im not gonna make any predictions, all i say is that if liverpool can defeat inter 2-0, we can tie with that team from Manchester.

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  • Ronald |  February 19th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

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    P.S. – is it cruel of me, that when mancini scored the second goal on Madrid that the first thing i thought was ” damn, i wish totti played for lyon ” and the second thing was ” Wow………i wonder how Corey is feeling right now, hehehehehe ”

    ( sorry to some lyon fans, ive been a totti fan for a while, before his squad sent us packing in the champions league. )

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  • Storm |  February 20th, 2008 at 1:29 am

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    I’m really not optimistic for tonight, but I keep reminding myself that Lyon have a habit of messing up the easy games and then turning things on when there’s a big match and a lot at stake.

    In many ways I think a draw might be our best outcome tonight because logically Man U will then still expect to win at Old Trafford. Then maybe ( just maybe) they’ll be over complacent for the return leg, allowing us to snatch an unexpected 1:0 win. I think if by any chance we win tonight it will leave Man U sooo hungry for the return game they will eat us alive.

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  • Salieri |  February 20th, 2008 at 2:44 am

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    According to L’Equipe, Clerc would play on the right wing, Govou on the left wing, and Ben Arfa would be on the bench.

    WTF ?????

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  • Storm |  February 20th, 2008 at 3:13 am

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    WTF indeed. Todays Le Progres has the following line up:

    Coupet
    Réveillère Squillaci Boumsong Grosso

    Juni Toulalan Kallstrom

    Govou Benzema Fred or Ben Arfa

    Lets hope this one is right

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  • Jo |  February 20th, 2008 at 3:41 am

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    God help us.
    I’m so scared for tonight.
    The “Mancuniens” are here since yesterday, everybody speak about it.

    ALLEZ LYONNAIS !!!

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  • Ronan "The Don" Napier |  February 20th, 2008 at 4:48 am

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    Sorry guys but man u are just stronger than lyon im afraid to say i think it will either be 2-0 man or 3-1 man u, lyon just arent strong enough to cope with ronaldo and co…but theres always next year,unless Aulas fucks up yet anothere transfer window.

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  • nelson |  February 20th, 2008 at 5:34 am

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    omon men be optimistic punk

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  • Marcel |  February 20th, 2008 at 7:18 am

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    it’s such a god-damn tricky game to call because…

    1 – we can’t gauge how well OL will perform when meausring recent form against potential to perform.

    2 – the MU that turns up; will it be the one who destroyed roma or the one that fell meekly at the feet of milan?

    what i do know is we should play it tight for the first half hour, close up. studying in england i’ve seen a few MU games and it seems their big strength is counter-attacking at speed; they sit back and sometimes wait, this is epecially true of away games.

    i agree it is hard to not to see them scoring so we gotta keep it tight! a 1-0 would be a great result, even a 0-0 as Perrin said. they’re so dominant at home a goal conceded is gonna hurt big time.

    gah, i’m convinced we will score, the reason they don’t condede many, a decent defence asides, is the amount of teams who play 5 in midfield to stop rooney/tevez/ronaldo and scholes/giggs at the expense of their own attacking threat. and sure we’ll probably play 5 but we’ll look to break also.

    so here’s to hoping we can hurt the man with the red nose!

    ALLONS !

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  • Sam |  February 20th, 2008 at 9:35 am

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    God sky sports news are awful. This is how they put the Lyon team (with their spellings)

    Coupet

    Clerc Squilloci Boumsong Grosso

    Kallstrom Juninho Toulajon

    Benzema Ben Arfa Govou

    How are they qualified to even speak about Lyon, since when was Ben Arfa a striker, and what’s up with the spelling mistakes? Can’t they read. Anyway, fearful tonight but hoping for the best. Benzema and Ben Arfa will have a hard time against Ferdinand and Vidic thats for sure.

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  • Corey |  February 20th, 2008 at 10:11 am

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    Ronald, I felt fine, as an away goal is all we needed in that game. I will feel much better when Roma comes to the Bernabeu, home of the unbeaten Merengues.

    As for Lyon, for me this year is a give away year. We look set to loose only Kallstrom and Anderson (boo hoo), and we will need to make a few buys, but the core group (add Ederson) has great potential, and our young guys on loan will come back with more experience, especially Remy. I am not putting all my eggs in one basket for this game, I do not have much faith in the coach and the teams form is poor, I dont think this is the year. The next two or three years definately.

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  • Inara |  February 20th, 2008 at 10:26 am

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    OMG Clerc is starting, Ben Arfa is on the bench. Yeah right as if Clerc is good enough to stop Ronaldo. We tried this against Barca and it DIDN’T WORK. Perrin is such a coward!!!

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  • Ush |  February 20th, 2008 at 10:55 am

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    What? C.Ronaldo plays on the right side, he will be up against Grosso.

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  • Inara |  February 20th, 2008 at 10:57 am

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    Yeah, I just noticed that. So what is the point in a doubly defensive right side? Surely not for Giggs?

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  • Caio |  February 20th, 2008 at 11:01 am

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    but ben arfa plays on the left (i think clerc will play on the left to!)

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  • andy |  February 20th, 2008 at 11:13 am

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    both teams have done very well to get this far but as i am a man utd fan a draw tonight would be ok and a win at home would do for me!

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