Poll: Who Should Be Sacrificed?

By: Inara | December 16th, 2007

In case anyone needed official confirmation, Karim Benzema is now Lyon’s #1 striker. Of course we all knew it would happen some day, just not so soon. Kids these days. They don’t want to wait their turn.

Anyway, this creates a problem for Lyon. In an interview following the Rangers-Lyon match, His Highness Jean-Michel Aulas stated quite bluntly that Lyon would probably have to let either Fred or Milan Baros leave this winter. Since both Fred and Baros are regulars for their national teams, they can’t jeopardize their chances by hanging out on the bench, and as long as Lyon stick to a 4-3-3, the club can’t accommodate all three of them. This is especially true for Baros, for whom Euro 2008 looms around the corner.

So who should leave? The obvious answer is Baros. He hasn’t exactly impressed since Euro 2004, though he will score the odd goal when he remembers too. Whereas we’ve all seen Fred’s brilliance. On his day, he is magnificent, and last year, he averaged a goal every 96 minutes.

Fred’s most significant contribution last year.

But it’s not just a question of raw talent. Fred has been unsettled since last year and has been at odds with the management over disciplinary issues. Since last October, he’s only been fit for four whole weeks spaced throughout the year. He’s also without any confidence and looks lost on the pitch. And let’s not forget his attitude problems. I doubt he would accept Benzema’s starting place, and I worry sometimes that Fred will turn into the new Adriano.

Baros is a team player, a hard worker, a person who is humble and has a good attitude. He understands the meaning of a pecking order, and though he’ll always fight for his place, he won’t begrudge Benzema either. And to be honest, I still don’t think Baros is a bad player. Not good enough to be Lyon’s starter, but he hasn’t done poorly coming off the bench this season either. But on the other hand, Baros hasn’t exactly endeared himself to the French public or the traffic police.

Baros’s most significant contribution last year.

Both players also have a host of suitors, with Baros eliciting interest from EPL clubs while Fred is linked with moves to either Spain or Italy. As for the Lyon side of things, they will probably recruit another young talent that would be the third choice striker (hard to believe that Benzema was #3 last year!) during the January transfer window.

What do you guys think?



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  • Ara |  December 17th, 2007 at 12:48 pm

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    http://www.soccerway.com/news/2007/December/17/former-psg-coach-lacombe-gets-rennes-job/

    Everybody should click the link!! hahahaha!

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  • Ronald |  December 17th, 2007 at 1:45 pm

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    guignol might have a point, both might go because they both havent been settled in this year (somewhat). If i had to make a choice to STAY, i would go with Fred, i think he has a more considerable upside than milan baros has NOW. If they let one of them go, i think there gonna try to get someone new ( but younger ), or they might just promote Loic Remy to the number 3 striker ( somewhat)

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  • Corbin |  December 17th, 2007 at 2:51 pm

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    Fred is my favorite player, so I can’t see him going anywhere. but i don’t want his attitude harming the team atmosphere that we have now. i think that we should keep all of them until at least the summer. a season can be a long time, and while benzema hasnt occurred serious injury, he could like he did last year. we need two capable backups for a position as important as lone striker in the 4-3-3

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  • Jennifer |  December 17th, 2007 at 4:06 pm

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    “I worry sometimes that Fred will turn into the new Adriano.”

    I laugh at that :D

    I think Baros is like some sort of a lucky charm (Karim scores when he just comes on, but that’s probably just a coincidence :) )

    IMO, Baros should leave. (and Inter isn’t giving up on Adri, so why should Lyon?)

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  • Inara |  December 17th, 2007 at 6:37 pm

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    I don’t think Lyon would let two strikers leave in January. Even if they buy two new strikers, it takes a while for new people to gel, and it’s too risky just relying on Benzema.

    I also expect that Baros would be the one to leave, but I get the feeling that Perrin likes Baros more than Fred (and who can blame him?). Also, I’m surprised at how many people voted for Fred’s departure (which though half of Baros’s, is till quite a few votes).

    I would love to have Fred of last year back, but it seems like Lyon are having less and less patience with him. And Fred is having less and less patience with Lyon.

    We’ll find out in a few weeks, as transfer season will be starting in less than 15 days.

    Also, remember this time last year, with rumors swirling all around Lyon? This year it’s much more peaceful and quiet, and the only rumors (besides the Fred and Baros ones) are the stupid ones about Benzema and Ben Arfa and Fabio Santos (as if the club is going to let him leave now).

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  • Inara |  December 17th, 2007 at 6:38 pm

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    The reason why I’m not totally against Baros is as Jennifer mentioned, Benzema seems to score when he’s on. I’m sure that’s mostly due to random luck, but I’ve also noticed that Baros does a lot of work up front and has provided a few assists this season. Maybe he can be utilized as a secondary striker?

    Also, Lyon have apparently made an offer for Cesar Delgado of Cruz Azul.

    http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fespndeportes.espn.go.com%2Fnews%2Fstory%3Fid%3D629804%26s%3Dmex%26type%3Dstory&lp=es_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

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  • lefutur |  December 17th, 2007 at 9:08 pm

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    wow, cesar seems like quite a prospect. incredible ball control and finishing.

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  • Inara |  December 18th, 2007 at 6:01 am

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    Well, Lyon have posted an official statement on their website saying that rumors of that Lyon would consider loaning Fred are false. They said they would consider a departure but only as a permanent deal.

    Hmm. Lyon seem awfully vocal about all that.

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  • Corey |  December 18th, 2007 at 7:34 am

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    Loaning Fred does no good, he is a massive wage so a loan is just not a good business move, Jean Michel knows this. Delgado isnt much of a prospect anymore, I believe his is already 25, so he is close to a finished product but who knows, a jump to Europe may improve his game further. He wouldnt be a bad addition though, but I would prefer we go French with a new striker. And promote a youth team player. Inara, any news on young guys goin out on loan for the second half of the season?

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  • Evilo |  December 18th, 2007 at 8:23 am

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    There’s really nobody good enough to promote among the forwards.
    Remy shouldn’t be there either.

    Briand, Menez, Ilan, Gouffran, Pauleta, etc… are good targets.

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  • Francis |  December 18th, 2007 at 8:31 am

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    I don’t think they will get a top french striker from ligue 1 unless they sell a player for a lot. In that case i would see Savidan, Ilan, Menez, Pauleta(getting old though).

    The Lyon academy will probably provide whats needed.

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  • Corey |  December 18th, 2007 at 11:31 am

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    Evilo, Barlet and Miguet may not be great prospects, probably as good as Bettiol, but they should be given a shot. It is true our striking talent is shallow in the CFA’s, but Alexander Lazacette and Methieu Salamand are great hopes of mine.

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  • Evilo |  December 18th, 2007 at 1:01 pm

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    These guys are not CL level. Not even close. Lyon is not trying to get some strikers that could help at the end of an L1 blowout here.
    They want someone to cover if Benzema/Fred are unavailable for CL action.
    The only good prospect Lyon has that has some upside for the next two years if Sandy Paillot. That’s it. Even former highly touted Hartock has shown his true colors.
    In 3 years though, we should see some good talents emerge.

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  • Corey |  December 18th, 2007 at 4:29 pm

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    I agree Evilo, Beynie seems to have fallen off the face of the planet, and Remy needs a loan to prove any worht. I think Mounier is better then Perrin rates him though. Loic Abendazoar is a promosing right back/center back, 18, I think in 2 years he should probably push one of Clerc/Rev. Miguet and Barlet are not Cl material, I agree, but picking up the slack in Ligue 1 may enable Benz and Fred to be fresher and sharper for the CL. But if we have a first round exit (knock on wood), then why not blood the youngsters?

    I love Paillot, I want to see him play, but Micheal Charvet isnt to shabby either. As for central midfielders, Arthur Heynick, Bruce Ducarre and Maxime Gonalons are Ligue 2 fodder, while Ettien showed promised at Claire, but I havent heard anything since. Stephan Monsanto is a let winger/striker who was suppose to leave this summer, but he didnt so I dont know what his status is. Loosemy Karaboue and Said Mehama are French youth internationals and great prospects, while Salamand and Lazacette are both 15 so they are some way of first time duty. Speaking of 15 year olds, Jordan Ferri looks like a quality attacking central midfielder, but 15 year olds can go one way or the other so we will have to wait and see.

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  • Evilo |  December 18th, 2007 at 10:22 pm

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    Mehama is a true “heart and soul” leader that should become another Jérémy Clément.
    Aulas should keep him.

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  • Corey |  December 19th, 2007 at 7:06 am

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    This is true, any comments on any of the other players?

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  • Evilo |  December 19th, 2007 at 9:03 am

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    Of the others, as of now none have Lyon quality (meaning top L1, CL level) IMO.
    Paillot, Mehama and that’s it. No idea why Lyon let Riou go like that, what a rip off.

    In a couple of years, we should see who emerges among the promising 15 year olds.

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  • Corey |  December 19th, 2007 at 10:36 am

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    Abendanzoar and Kaaraboue are of great promise in my opinion.

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  • ronan |  December 20th, 2007 at 9:58 am

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    fred stay baros leave.- Its obvious.

    However if Baros does go 2 new strikers need 2 be brought in.AKA- [oscar cardozo-benfica------Gomis-saint ettienne].

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  • ronan |  December 20th, 2007 at 10:03 am

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    EVILO-JIMMY BRIANDS GOAL SCORING RECRD IS QUITE FRANCLY SHIT[FACT]-LOOK ON WIIKIPEDIA 1 GOAL EVERY 8 GAMES-YER REALLY WHAT WE NEED.PAULETA-WOT!-THE BLOKES ALMOST 34. AND THE OTHERS ARE ONLY AVERAGE.

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  • Corey |  December 20th, 2007 at 11:15 am

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    Oscar Cardozo doubtly has a better goal scoring average then Briand, and remeber, Briand’s average is low because he has been making appearances since he was 18. He is not Benzema, but he is still a good prospect. And Gomis, no way.

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  • ronan |  December 20th, 2007 at 11:26 am

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    why not gomis? …….. I have seen him play and he is the new adebayor and only 22

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  • Corey |  December 21st, 2007 at 8:39 am

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    Because Gomis plays for St Etienne and would add no value to a team chasing a CL spot. I enjoy picking out young talent like the next guy, but the fact is, before we can sign Jimmy Brian or Jeremy Menez or Bafe Gomis, we need a striker to support Benzema in the CL. Think as if you were Lacombe before you suggest players to buy.

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  • ronan |  December 21st, 2007 at 8:43 am

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    john utaka

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  • ronan |  December 21st, 2007 at 8:44 am

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    or cardozo who is tall

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