The Time-Bomb and the Brazilian Baby

By: John | October 27th, 2008
   

I have a very low tolerance for “Diva-ish” behavior, no matter how talented a player may be. And as much as I dislike both of these immensely talented players, I decided to write a post because their fates may be intertwined – although highly unlikely- and I wouldn’t mind seeing both of them possibly doing OL a big favor in the future, by negatively affecting the current #2 team in L1, Marseille. The following post has to do with my two least favorite Lyon players, one past and the other present: Hatem Ben Arfa and Fred.

It seems that the malignancy that was extirpated from OL’s body this last season is finally beginning to metastasize in it’s new host, Olympique de Marseille. HBA is losing his mind, and hopefully Lyon will reap all the benfits. According to reports, Ben Arfa burst into Eric Gerets’ press conference after the Clasico and began to rant about needing to give an explanation about his non-participation in this weekend’s match against PSG. Apparently, HBA rufused to warm-up a half-an-hour before the end of the match, being angry that Gerets did not start him in the biggest game of the season for him, in his native Paris. Ben Arfa interrupted the press conference and said: “I have to make everything clear. I made an innapropriate gesture because I am a competitor! I had time to apologize to the coach.” HBA then left the conference just as abrubtly as he had entered, leaving Gerets to explain what had prompted these words and what it all meant. Gerets had a flippant attitude and went on to say that everything had been talked about and the issues were resolved. But then, although Gerets took on a joking tone, how he described the problem with Ben Arfa didn’t sound so trivial.

He went on to say: “This could have ended with blows on both sides, but I’m a mature coach now. He had refused[to enter warm-up] because he was not mentally sorted-out. I had a meeting with him after the match. I knew that it would be direct and that it could either resolve the problem or make it worse. Fortunately, today, everything has been ironed-out. We kissed and made-up. It is the first time in my career that this has happened to me. But I think I had a fine interview. I’m happy with myself. I hope that that won’t happen again, but if it does, we musn’t put our heads in the sand. We must look to resolve the problem through discussion.”

Gerets claimed to have “turned the page” on the issue, saying that it could be quite possible that Hatem be included in the group against Nantes on Wednesday. He went to comment on HBA’s reputation: “Frankly, I don’t care about all the things I heard about him before he arrived. I’m beginning to understand his personality. When I called him before he arrived, I told him that we were sure to have good days and bad days. Right now, I think he’s had more good than bad.”

Although we saw a tiny flash of Hatem’s attitude problem in his training session scrap with Djibril Cisse – unfortunately Cisse took-off for Sunderland before he could teach the young man a proper lesson- things have been quiet at OM since then.

As for our other problem child, according to Le Parisien, Marseille is making the signing of Fred their priority, should Sunderland decide to take the option-to-buy on Cisse’s loan. Officials from OM are said to have already been in contact with Fred’s brother/agent. The article also says that JMA is putting lots of pressure on the Fred camp to sign a contract extension before Jan 1.

I’m not so sure that JMA will continue to supply OL’s biggest competitor with more higly talented, albiet emotionaly unbalanced players, especially if Fred continues his current form. With Lyon’s tenous grip on first place and the gap between OL and other teams in L1 almost nonexistent despite Lyon’s spending spree this summer, I doubt JMA would sell Fred to the team that poses the biggest threat to OL’s primacy in L1. But if Fred does sign a contract extension and OM outbids the other parties by a substantial margin, Lyon’s two resident problem children of last season could be reunited.

If that were to happen, we can only hope that HBA and Fred cause enough problems to make OM’s squad cohesion seem like a knee with no cartilage and then Marseille will have issues on the offensive side to add to their defensive woes. On the other hand, those two playing in sync together with Bakari Kone, Mamadou Niang, Mathieu Valbuena, Boudewijen Zenden, Elliot Grandin and company, is a scary thought and could make OM the strongest squad in France.


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  • Ush

    "But then it just goes to show that talent isn’t everything. Imagine how amazing they would be if they had the dedication to their craft like Kallstrom or Toulalan." - They'd be known as Karim Benzema :)

  • mrCham

    I respect your opinion, but I just don't get the point with Lloris. He is not supernatural. He is not _that_ incredible. And you know that you can't blame everything on "lack of defending". He sure will be great in 4 years time. But until then, wake up and do the right thing! You've all been hypnotized by his age. Snap out of it! Please.

  • Pride of Lyon

    Can't believe someone actually thinks of Lloris as a bad keeper...
    Even Pierre Menes who is always fairly critical about players abilities rates him very highly. Lloris is the keeper we need. He is already very good, but he will be immense in 4 years time.

  • mrCham

    Well, you're right about Fred. But still, I can't believe it when people only mention Lloris age; "he is only 21 years old". Is this some kind of contest of having the youngest keeper?? He is not even half the keeper Coupet ever was, and nor will he be better than Vercoutre in the near future. I just don't see the benefits in using a low-experienced keeper, just because he is young.... And yes, I have followed every game Lyon played this season, and to be honest ... it's scary that it seems that I'm the only one not blinded by his young age - instead of seeing his lack of experience.

  • Lloris makes a few disastrous mistakes and then manages to save a few shots no keeper in the world could have saved. To me, that incosistency is a sign of a great talent and a limited experience. With time and support from the whole team, he could become one of the best European goalkeepers, and the fact he is 21 should never be forgotten - in fact, could anyone name me one keeper in the world of his age who is better than him?

    About Fred, I won't hide that I have certain irrational affection towards the guy, he's definetely one of my favourite Lyon player and I rate his talent very highly. That's why I would really really like him to get his act together and acts like a professional both on and off the pitch, he could be a real gem for this team - especially if Benzema leaves this summer. So, while I certainly don't defend his attitude, I hope things with him would go just fine in the end and that he would stop making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

  • It's a pity that both of them have such problems with attitude and mental fitness. I think both of them need a coach like Mourinho to get them through their careers (in style like Adriano, of course).

    But then it just goes to show that talent isn't everything. Imagine how amazing they would be if they had the dedication to their craft like Kallstrom or Toulalan.

  • Jo

    Have you ever watched any Lyon game, this season, MrCham ?
    Just do not forget that we didn't concede a single goal in August, that means the 5 first official games.
    Lloris was extraordinary. And then our ugly defense broke it up.
    He even stopped two penaltys against Bordeaux in the Trophée des champions. He cannot do everything.

  • mrCham

    Poor Fred. Everything he does seems to be bad. When he doesn't score he's no good, and when he actually scores - anyone could do it. The worst player ever to have played in Lyon is Hugo Lloris - he has to be the worst player/keeper ever. Everyone's blinded by his low age and sees him as a talent, so they forget to criticize him. He hasn't proven anything in Lyon but failure.

  • maybe look for a swap deal-vucinic-Fred

  • If Fred does leave,i think he needs to be replaced by a pacey striker,who is also a good finisher my choices would be
    Dieumerci Mbokani
    Mirko Vucinic
    McCauley Chrisantus
    Semih Senturk
    However I am aware that a few of those are cup tied,but all decent and young

  • Ush

    Anybody else losing faith in Puel abit?

    http://www.goal.com/en/Articol...

  • MoMONEY

    Ben Arfa I agree with but Fred not so much... The man can play but needs a change in scenery...

  • This situation is predictable-Diouf will launch two statements admiring Fred and saying how much he wants to sign him,then have a falling out with Aulas along the way. Then Diouf will come out saying Freds wages are to high.

  • I can already see what will happen between marseille and fred,pape diouf will launch one ot two statemants regarding his interests,the have a falling out with Aulas. Then Diouf will launch another statement saying Marseille would like to sign Fred but his wages are to high,

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