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	<title>Comments on: The Time-Bomb and the Brazilian Baby</title>
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		<title>By: Ush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But then it just goes to show that talent isn’t everything. Imagine how amazing they would be if they had the dedication to their craft like Kallstrom or Toulalan.&quot; - They&#039;d be known as Karim Benzema :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But then it just goes to show that talent isn’t everything. Imagine how amazing they would be if they had the dedication to their craft like Kallstrom or Toulalan.&#8221; &#8211; They&#8217;d be known as Karim Benzema <img src='http://lyon.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mrCham</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrCham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect your opinion, but I just don&#039;t get the point with Lloris. He is not supernatural. He is not _that_ incredible. And you know that you can&#039;t blame everything on &quot;lack of defending&quot;. He sure will be great in 4 years time. But until then, wake up and do the right thing! You&#039;ve all been hypnotized by his age. Snap out of it! Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect your opinion, but I just don&#8217;t get the point with Lloris. He is not supernatural. He is not _that_ incredible. And you know that you can&#8217;t blame everything on &#8220;lack of defending&#8221;. He sure will be great in 4 years time. But until then, wake up and do the right thing! You&#8217;ve all been hypnotized by his age. Snap out of it! Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Pride of Lyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pride of Lyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t believe someone actually thinks of Lloris as a bad keeper... 
Even Pierre Menes who is always fairly critical about players abilities rates him very highly. Lloris is the keeper we need. He is already very good, but he will be immense in 4 years time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t believe someone actually thinks of Lloris as a bad keeper&#8230;<br />
Even Pierre Menes who is always fairly critical about players abilities rates him very highly. Lloris is the keeper we need. He is already very good, but he will be immense in 4 years time.</p>
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		<title>By: Inara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloris is already better than Vercoutre. Remember his game against Bordeaux, Bayern, Nancy, and even Fiorentina? He was immense. The Steaua game was the first match since he came to OL where he looked inexperienced, and against Nice he had some fumbles. That Rennes game was just a brainfart by the entire team, and against Lille he was hung out to dry on the lack of defending on those corners. 

He doesn&#039;t have European experience, no, but he&#039;s been an L1 starter for Nice for the past three years. In fact, he has almost three times the experience as Vercoutre. For a guy with such a huge upside, I don&#039;t know how much of a better player Lyon could have gotten, without going for a player of the level of Cech/Casillas/Buffon - which is obviously out of reach for Lyon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloris is already better than Vercoutre. Remember his game against Bordeaux, Bayern, Nancy, and even Fiorentina? He was immense. The Steaua game was the first match since he came to OL where he looked inexperienced, and against Nice he had some fumbles. That Rennes game was just a brainfart by the entire team, and against Lille he was hung out to dry on the lack of defending on those corners. </p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t have European experience, no, but he&#8217;s been an L1 starter for Nice for the past three years. In fact, he has almost three times the experience as Vercoutre. For a guy with such a huge upside, I don&#8217;t know how much of a better player Lyon could have gotten, without going for a player of the level of Cech/Casillas/Buffon &#8211; which is obviously out of reach for Lyon.</p>
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		<title>By: mrCham</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrCham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you&#039;re right about Fred. But still, I can&#039;t believe it when people only mention Lloris age; &quot;he is only 21 years old&quot;. Is this some kind of contest of having the youngest keeper?? He is not even half the keeper Coupet ever was, and nor will he be better than Vercoutre in the near future. I just don&#039;t see the benefits in using a low-experienced keeper, just because he is young.... And yes, I have followed every game Lyon played this season, and to be honest ... it&#039;s scary that it seems that I&#039;m the only one not blinded by his young age - instead of seeing his lack of experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;re right about Fred. But still, I can&#8217;t believe it when people only mention Lloris age; &#8220;he is only 21 years old&#8221;. Is this some kind of contest of having the youngest keeper?? He is not even half the keeper Coupet ever was, and nor will he be better than Vercoutre in the near future. I just don&#8217;t see the benefits in using a low-experienced keeper, just because he is young&#8230;. And yes, I have followed every game Lyon played this season, and to be honest &#8230; it&#8217;s scary that it seems that I&#8217;m the only one not blinded by his young age &#8211; instead of seeing his lack of experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloris makes a few disastrous mistakes and then manages to save a few shots no keeper in the world could have saved. To me, that incosistency is a sign of a great talent and a limited experience. With time and support from the whole team, he could become one of the best European goalkeepers, and the fact he is 21 should never be forgotten - in fact, could anyone name me one keeper in the world of his age who is better than him?

About Fred, I won&#039;t hide that I have certain irrational affection towards the guy, he&#039;s definetely one of my favourite Lyon player and I rate his talent very highly. That&#039;s why I would really really like him to get his act together and acts like a professional both on and off the pitch, he could be a real gem for this team - especially if Benzema leaves this summer. So, while I certainly don&#039;t defend his attitude, I hope things with him would go just fine in the end and that he would stop making headlines for all the wrong reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloris makes a few disastrous mistakes and then manages to save a few shots no keeper in the world could have saved. To me, that incosistency is a sign of a great talent and a limited experience. With time and support from the whole team, he could become one of the best European goalkeepers, and the fact he is 21 should never be forgotten &#8211; in fact, could anyone name me one keeper in the world of his age who is better than him?</p>
<p>About Fred, I won&#8217;t hide that I have certain irrational affection towards the guy, he&#8217;s definetely one of my favourite Lyon player and I rate his talent very highly. That&#8217;s why I would really really like him to get his act together and acts like a professional both on and off the pitch, he could be a real gem for this team &#8211; especially if Benzema leaves this summer. So, while I certainly don&#8217;t defend his attitude, I hope things with him would go just fine in the end and that he would stop making headlines for all the wrong reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity that both of them have such problems with attitude and mental fitness. I think both of them need a coach like Mourinho to get them through their careers (in style like Adriano, of course). 

But then it just goes to show that talent isn&#039;t everything. Imagine how amazing they would be if they had the dedication to their craft like Kallstrom or Toulalan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity that both of them have such problems with attitude and mental fitness. I think both of them need a coach like Mourinho to get them through their careers (in style like Adriano, of course). </p>
<p>But then it just goes to show that talent isn&#8217;t everything. Imagine how amazing they would be if they had the dedication to their craft like Kallstrom or Toulalan.</p>
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		<title>By: Inara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;mrCham:&lt;/strong&gt; For me, it&#039;s not a matter of doubting Fred&#039;s talent. I do think he&#039;s talented, and when he plays well, he plays very well. It&#039;s his attitude that I have a problem with. If Lloris acted like that, then yes, I&#039;d not like him either. 

I just don&#039;t understand how some people can overlook all the many negative things about Fred. Namely his lack of respect to the overall team dynamic. All the stunts he pulled last year - leaving Lyon without permission, returning a month late for pre-season training, missing practices, his constantly changing stance on whether he will stay or go, etc., and then whining about it to the press about how he&#039;s being treated so unfairly. The goals he scores - when he does score them - in no way makes up for his behavior. He &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; spoiled, and I don&#039;t believe that the club should pander to his wishes just because he has talent. It&#039;s the same way I felt about Ben Arfa, who was my fave OL player at one time, but his attitude was too much for me, and I was happy to see him go. 

As for Lloris - of all the goals Lyon conceded so far, most of them were the fault of his defense and the general disorganization of the team. He&#039;s made a few mistakes, notably on the second goal scored by Steaua, but he&#039;s a new player, has to deal with a new defense every single game, one which often features displaced midfielders, with two CBs who are in the midst of professional breakdowns, with an RB that has played nearly every minute of the season so far, and an LB that has only been back for three games. So in his case, he deserves the extra leeway. 

But he&#039;s definitely not the finished article, and he needs to get his confidence up. Should he continue making mistakes, then perhaps other alternatives will need to be explored. But Lloris&#039;s attitude is the right one - to work hard and keep quiet, and better yet, he owns up to his errors and takes responsibility for them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>mrCham:</strong> For me, it&#8217;s not a matter of doubting Fred&#8217;s talent. I do think he&#8217;s talented, and when he plays well, he plays very well. It&#8217;s his attitude that I have a problem with. If Lloris acted like that, then yes, I&#8217;d not like him either. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand how some people can overlook all the many negative things about Fred. Namely his lack of respect to the overall team dynamic. All the stunts he pulled last year &#8211; leaving Lyon without permission, returning a month late for pre-season training, missing practices, his constantly changing stance on whether he will stay or go, etc., and then whining about it to the press about how he&#8217;s being treated so unfairly. The goals he scores &#8211; when he does score them &#8211; in no way makes up for his behavior. He <em>is</em> spoiled, and I don&#8217;t believe that the club should pander to his wishes just because he has talent. It&#8217;s the same way I felt about Ben Arfa, who was my fave OL player at one time, but his attitude was too much for me, and I was happy to see him go. </p>
<p>As for Lloris &#8211; of all the goals Lyon conceded so far, most of them were the fault of his defense and the general disorganization of the team. He&#8217;s made a few mistakes, notably on the second goal scored by Steaua, but he&#8217;s a new player, has to deal with a new defense every single game, one which often features displaced midfielders, with two CBs who are in the midst of professional breakdowns, with an RB that has played nearly every minute of the season so far, and an LB that has only been back for three games. So in his case, he deserves the extra leeway. </p>
<p>But he&#8217;s definitely not the finished article, and he needs to get his confidence up. Should he continue making mistakes, then perhaps other alternatives will need to be explored. But Lloris&#8217;s attitude is the right one &#8211; to work hard and keep quiet, and better yet, he owns up to his errors and takes responsibility for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever watched any Lyon game, this season, MrCham ?
Just do not forget that we didn&#039;t concede a single goal in August, that means the 5 first official games.
Lloris was extraordinary. And then our ugly defense broke it up.
He even stopped two penaltys against Bordeaux in the Trophée des champions. He cannot do everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever watched any Lyon game, this season, MrCham ?<br />
Just do not forget that we didn&#8217;t concede a single goal in August, that means the 5 first official games.<br />
Lloris was extraordinary. And then our ugly defense broke it up.<br />
He even stopped two penaltys against Bordeaux in the Trophée des champions. He cannot do everything.</p>
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		<title>By: mrCham</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrCham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Fred. Everything he does seems to be bad. When he doesn&#039;t score he&#039;s no good, and when he actually scores - anyone could do it. The worst player ever to have played in Lyon is Hugo Lloris - he has to be the worst player/keeper ever. Everyone&#039;s blinded by his low age and sees him as a talent, so they forget to criticize him. He hasn&#039;t proven anything in Lyon but failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Fred. Everything he does seems to be bad. When he doesn&#8217;t score he&#8217;s no good, and when he actually scores &#8211; anyone could do it. The worst player ever to have played in Lyon is Hugo Lloris &#8211; he has to be the worst player/keeper ever. Everyone&#8217;s blinded by his low age and sees him as a talent, so they forget to criticize him. He hasn&#8217;t proven anything in Lyon but failure.</p>
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