CL Preview: Lyon vs. Fiorentina, Part Deux

By: Inara | September 15th, 2009

Wow, writing this match preview feels like déjà vu. Oh wait, it’s because I wrote one exactly a year ago, involving the exact same teams and coaches. So here’s hoping the outcome (which was a 2-2 last season) is at least more in our favor this time.

September 16, 2009
Stade de Gerland, Lyon
2:45 PM ET (20:45 CET, 19:45 GMT)

Match Background:

I was sorely tempted to copy and paste what I wrote about Fiorentina last year, simply because their squad hasn’t gone through any drastic changes since then. There have been a few transfers, but for the most part, the team OL will be facing tomorrow is nearly the same as the one they faced last season.

In terms of transfers, Fiorentina had only one major player leave, and that was Felipe Melo, who changed pastures for Juventus. They also lost Zdravko Kuzmanović to Stuttgart and Franco Semioli to Sampdoria. Their incoming players are a bit more interesting, with Lorenzo De Silvestri from Lazio, and Cristiano Zanetti and Marco Marchionni from Juventus. Coach Cesar Prandelli added depth to his team in nearly all positions, so I’d say he had a pretty decent mercato.

That’s in addition to the players he already has, including Sebastien Frey, Adrian Mutu, and Alberto Gilardino (who scored all three of Fiorentina’s goals against OL last reason). Stevan Jovetić and Juan Vargas are also players to watch out.

Last season, Fiorentina ended in fourth place in their league, which in Serie A is a CL qualification spot. Like OL, they had to go through a play-off round to earn their place in this year’s group stages. They faced Sporting in qualifying, and though the aggregate score was 3-3 (both matches were draws), Fiorentina slipped through due to more away goals. This year, Fiorentina are in 5th place after three games, with two wins and one draw. So far, they have scored 3 goals and conceded 1.

Since most of us know what Lyon have been up to this transfer window, I won’t delve into it, but for those non-OL fans, Lyon have changed their squad a great deal since the last time these two sides met. Juninho, Karim Benzema, John Mensah, Fred, Fabio Grosso, Kader Keita, Anthony Mounier, and Frederic Piquoinne – all of whom played against Fiorentina, either as a starter or as a substitute – are no longer at Lyon.

At first glance, that looks like an impressive list of departures, but besides Juni and Benzema, Lyon were eager to let them go. In fact, one could argue that despite the departures, Lyon have improved from the stagnating side they were last season, and that the new incoming players – a mere four of them, though together valued at 74 million euros, have brought back the energy, vitality, and creativity that has long been missing.

Currently, Lyon are in 2nd place in the league, tied on points with Bordeaux. They’ve scored 10 goals and conceded 3. They sailed through CL qualifying, beating Anderlecht 8-2 on aggregate. But despite their promising early form, the Champions League has always been an entirely different competition, and Fiorentina are certainly better than any of the teams Lyon have faced since the season began. So tomorrow is sure to be a game that will keep everyone on the edges of their seats.

Team News:

There was some speculation that Adrian Mutu wouldn’t be fit in time for tomorrow’s game, but alas, it looks like he’s healed rather quickly (or, more likely, Prandelli was spreading around the intox). However, Cristiano Zanetti is suspended while José Castillo and Lorenzo De Silvestri are out with injuries.

Le groupe de la Fiorentina: Avramov, Seculin, Frey – Comotto, Dainelli, Gamberini, Gobbi, Kroldrup, Natali, Pasqual – Donadel, Jorgensen, Jovetic, Marchionni, Montolivo, Santana, Vargas – Mutu, Gilardino

There was also some rapid healing among Lyon players as well. Ederson and Lisandro Lopez, both of whom missed last Saturday’s game against Lorient and who were doubtful tomorrow, are now match fit. They will be joining Sidney Govou, who recently returned to first team action after a month long absence. The only two missing players are Jean-Alain Boumsong and Cleber Anderson (and naturally, both are CBs).

Le groupe lyonnais: Lloris, Vercoutre – Réveillère, Cris, Clerc, Bodmer, Cissokho, Seguin – Toulalan, Källström, Pjanic, Makoun, Gonalons, Belfodil, Ederson, Govou, Delgado – B.Gomis, Bastos, Lisandro

Puel is bringing along some of the kiddies. Ishak Belfodil and Maxime Gonalons, both of whom have already had their European (and league) debuts in recent weeks, will be joined by Nicholas Seguin, another of one of OL’s youth players.

Expected Lineup:

I’ll just skip over the back four. There’s no point really. No way will Puel give Francois Clerc his first start of the season in a crucial game like this, and it’s not like there are a lot of options in the other three positions, is there?

Midfield is where most of the question marks are. Puel may opt to go for the players he used in the first game against Anderlecht, but given the very great danger to our defense (our defense is crap, and everyone knows it), Puel might end up going with the relative safety of two DMs. Since Kim Kallstrom was rested over the weekend, it looks like Miralem Pjanic will be the player missing out. I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, I don’t like the idea of such a defensive formation (and yeah, having both Jean II Makoun and Jeremy Toulalan on the pitch is exactly that), but I have images of Adrian Mutu and Alberto Gilardino raping our back four, and then I think, hey, even three DMs sounds like a good idea. I guess we’ll see.

Up front, I expect to see Lisandro Lopez, Michel Bastos, and Bafetimbi Gomis. That means that Sidney Govou and Ederson don’t get to start (unless, once again, Puel drops one of the midfielders). To be honest, I can’t say I’m too sad to see either of them sit out since Bastos, Lisandro, and Gomis play so well together.

Lloris
Reveillere – Cris – Bodmer – Cissokho
Makoun – Toulalan – Kallstrom
Bastos – Gomis – Lisandro

At least that’s what I expect. The only changes I can see happening are one of Makoun or Kallstrom being dropped.

Viewing Options:

I swear, I think options are growing more limited each year. On television, the only place to watch this match (in the US, that is), is either on DirecTV or on SkySports Red Button, whatever that is. If you are REALLY patient, FSC will show Lyon vs. Fiorentina on Thursday at 5 PM in a super delayed broadcast.

But if you’d rather not wait, it looks like streaming is once again your best option. You can cross your fingers and try to find a working here, or you can chuck out $10 and buy one from UEFA.com. Remember, sharing is caring, and if you find a working stream, please share!

If you’d rather skip out on the streaming drama altogether, you can follow along on liveblog. Both Football365.fr and Lequipe.fr will have good ones, as will the OL website, where you can also follow along with free audio commentary – though be warned, it’s all in French. (About an hour before the match, I’ll update this section with the links to the liveblogs.)

Expected Result:

I’m not really sure what to expect. Both Fiorentina and Lyon are unknown quantities at the moment, and this game could go both ways. I don’t want to jinx anything with making either a too optimistic or too pessimistic guess, so instead, let me just wish for a match filled with fun football, no injuries (or drama!), and a result that is in Lyon’s favor.

Addendum:

I just wanted to mention that I hope that we can keep the commentary nice and clean. Last season, while the majority of you were great at keeping things polite and on topic, there were a couple fans (representing both OL and Fiorentina) started taking things too personally and began a series of nasty posts to each other. I’m not trying to go all Stalinistic on you guys, but please, no personal or racial insults, and no trolling. That also goes for any OL fans who might feel the need to vent over at the Fiorentina blog – please don’t.

Thanks!






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  • Aleksander |  September 16th, 2009 at 5:21 am

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    Yeah, absolutely. This Lyon team is totally different from last years Lyon. I still think the decisive factor will be Lisandro. If he plays then i predict we win by 2 goals or more, if he doesn’t, i expect any result.

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  • Sam |  September 16th, 2009 at 5:23 am

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    Would be more excited about this years Champions League …but for our defence!

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  • Megame |  September 16th, 2009 at 5:48 am

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    Smile, as Inara mentioned, intox has been the name of the game so far. However it looks like Lisandro is fit and will start, which is good news.
    But I guess uncertainty will reign until the squads are announced, as contrary to the -defensive- lineup Inara and many others, myself included, were predicting, French sports newspaper L’Equipe predicts a benching of Gomis and Makoun with the following midfield and offence:
    Pjanic,Toulalan, Källström – Govou, Lisandro, Bastos.

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  • Al |  September 16th, 2009 at 6:22 am

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    Well written and unbiased despite mentioning bias. That said: Garrisca al vento il labaro viola,
    sui campi della sfida e del valore.
    Una speranza viva ci consola,
    abbiamo undici atleti e un solo cuore!
    Oh Fiorentina, di ogni squadra ti vogliam regina.
    Oh Fiorentina, combatti ovunque ardita e con valor!
    Nell’ora di sconforto e di vittoria, ricorda che del calcio è tua la storia.
    Maglia viola lotta con vigore, per esser di Firenze vanto e gloria.
    Sul tuo vessillo scrivi: forza e cuore, e nostra sarà sempre la vittoria!
    Oh Fiorentina, di ogni squadra ti vogliam regina.
    Oh Fiorentina, combatti ovunque ardita e con valor!
    Nell’ora di sconforto e di vittoria, ricorda che del calcio è tua la storia.
    Forza Fiorentina! Forza!
    Alé Viola Alé
    (Narciso Parigi)

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  • Dave Trotter |  September 16th, 2009 at 6:31 am

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    http://frenchleague.wordpress.com/2009/09/16/champions-league-preview-lyon-vs-fiorentina/

    Here is my blog writeup on the game.

    As far as Lisandro, he seems to pretty much be a gametime decision according to Claude Puel. So who knows if he will start or not. I would assume that he would. This is too big of a game not to start him.

    And if he doesn’t start, I wonder if Puel will still go with the 4-3-3? Who knows.

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  • Dave Trotter |  September 16th, 2009 at 6:35 am

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    I just read L’Equipe and it seems like Lisandro will play. I don’t see the article about the lineup though? I must just be missing it.

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  • Megame |  September 16th, 2009 at 6:43 am

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    Dave, lequipe.fr was quoting l’Equipe this morning:
    http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2009/20090916_094256_pjanic-plutot-que-gomis.html

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  • Flash |  September 16th, 2009 at 7:28 am

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    Why are Ganalons and Belfodil in and Grenier and Tafer out. I thought they were big talents but cant even make the squad now

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  • Dror |  September 16th, 2009 at 7:32 am

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    its quite obvious neither Belfodil or Tafer will get playing time in a match like this, but the fact the new kid just kicked the old kid out of the bench for no apparent reason is kinda annoying.

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  • Sam |  September 16th, 2009 at 8:00 am

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    Flash – I think Grenier and Tafer are playing in an under 19 tournament at the moment.

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  • Megame |  September 16th, 2009 at 8:25 am

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    Flash – Tafer, Grenier and Faure were selected by the France -19 team to play the Sendai Cup until yesterday in Japan, where they tied against Japan, won over South Korea and lost to Brasil in the final.

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  • John |  September 16th, 2009 at 8:38 am

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    I think Gilardino got all three of his scores- maybe two- off of crosses that came from the left corner i.e., while Kallstrom was playing LB. I think this year, Cris might be the gaping hole.

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  • Dave Trotter |  September 16th, 2009 at 8:42 am

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    Thanks Megame, I must have just missed that article. Hopefully Lisandro will be as good as we was before the injury. I’m sure he will be.

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  • Smile |  September 16th, 2009 at 9:03 am

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    John-That’s true both crosses at Gerland game came from Kallstrom’s side. I don’t belive any kind of that unlucky scenario can be repeated this time, we simply won’t concede 2 goals like that time.

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  • Inara |  September 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am

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    If we can concede two goals against Le Mans, we can definitely do so against Fiorentina. That being said, I expect that the players will know to be wary of where danger could be coming from.

    Also, I’d be surprised if they benched Gomis. He opens up a lot of space for the other players, he’s fast, and he can overpower opposing defenders. Whereas Govou hasn’t played as much with Lisandro and he’s still coming off injury. I’d rather Govou be a second half sub.

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  • Inara |  September 16th, 2009 at 11:08 am

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    OK…so it turns out I was pretty much spot on in my lineup prediction. Except for two things. First, while both Toulalan and Makoun are playiing, Toulalan will be playing as a CB. WTF. Bodmer is not even on the bench, which means he’s injured. Nice going Puel, not bringing in another defender.

    The other thing is that the lineup is looking more like a 4-4-2 than the 4-3-3 Lyon normally use:

    Lloris
    Reveillere – Cris – TOULALAN! – Cissokho
    Pjanic – Makoun – Kallstrom – Bastos
    Gomis – Lisandro

    At least according to UEFA.com

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  • Theo Walcott 14 |  September 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am

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    It will be an interesting match today.Hope that Licha will be in the first XI.My prediction is a 2:0 victory with Licha and TOULALAN :D scoring the goals

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  • Benj |  September 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am

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    L’Equipe says Toulalan starting at CB…Bodmer out for “medical reasons”. Kallstrom will be in DM position…yikes!

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  • Benj |  September 16th, 2009 at 11:14 am

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    sorry for repeating info from Inara, didn’t see the post

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  • Ghislain |  September 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am

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    Any good streams out there everyone?

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  • Ghislain |  September 16th, 2009 at 11:43 am

  • Michael |  September 16th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

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    Is there any working stream on the internet ?

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  • Michael |  September 16th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

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    Bastos out

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  • Michael |  September 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

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    Pjanic

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  • Michael |  September 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

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    Is somebody watching this game :D

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