Juventus Want To Eat Your Souls
By: Inara | June 13th, 2007
As soon as David Trezeguet let the entire world know that he’s no longer interested in playing for the Old Lady (read: Hag), he was linked with Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United, Valencia, and Lyon in the space of five minutes.
Arsenal would like to pair Trezeguet with Thierry Henry (as Laurie can attest to, these two have no chemistry whatsoever), Liverpool and Valencia are interested in a trade with Peter Crouch and David Villa being linked in the opposite direction, while Manchester United just want to spend more money.
As for Lyon, they’ve been wanting Trezeguet for two years now, and knowing Aulas, he hasn’t been put off by the wait. Trezeguet himself has said that he wouldn’t mind playing for Lyon (he doesn’t have hangups about Ligue 1 as so many other players do), but the problem is that Lyon can’t come close to matching the salary he’s earning with Juventus.
Interesting, despite Lyon putting some distance between the Trezeguet rumors, it turns out that Juventus and Lyon officials are supposedly meeting today to discuss possible player exchanges.
Today, Juventus of Turin and Lyon programmed a meeting in order to negotiate the transfer of the Brazilian defender Cris. The French request is for the moment too high for the bianconeri.
Thus, Juventus would like to obtain Tiago or Malouda at the same time, and to thus propose Trezeguet or Camoranesi with the French club. Lyon will benefit from it to know the values estimated of the 2 players, that the club follows for a long time. A decision could then be made as of this evening for a possible purchase or an exchange.
Aulas has stated before that only three of his main players would be allowed to leave if suitable offers came in – Tiago, Malouda, and Abidal.
It’ll be interesting to see what will happen if there is any truth to these rumors. Aulas can be pretty stubborn, and if he says Cris is not for sale, only a foolish (and wealthy) man would challenge that. But then again, Trezeguet has been Aulas’s dream for quite a long time now, so I don’t think he’d be too adverse to a trade, depending on how much Trezeguet is valued.
As for Camoranesi, he was also wanted by Lyon last summer, though my understanding was that he now prefers Roma. In any case, I’m not sure if Camo still fits in Lyon’s plans, as the club has already purchased Abdul Kader Keita, and with Sidney Govou and Sylvain Wiltord still at the club, there is an excess of right-sided players.
And in case you’re interested, Tiago has been slapped with a pricetag of €18million, Cris with €20million, and Malouda with €25million. I wonder how long the meeting between Aulas and Juve officials will last. My prediction: 10 minutes.
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Mancini has one good moment, and suddenly Reveillere is branded for life. Poor guy. He’s a much better defender than that.
Liverpool will be getting either Malouda, Simao, or Mancini. If Lyon lose Malouda, it’s possible they may go after Simao. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Mancini at Inter actually. It seems like the club for him.
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I know Reveillere is a good defender. It wasn’t so much his fault as it was the brilliance of Mancini in that moment. It’s just so easy though.
For the past 2-3 years Mancini has made it clear he wants to stay in Rome, despite the huge rift between he and Totti. Now they’ve kissed and made up and are at least civil, so I think it’s unlikely he gets moved within 2 years. The Brazilian history at Roma is huge, and we fans idolize our Brazilian heroes on the same level as the Italians (the only retired number is Aldair – Brazilian). As a squad Inter might be perfect, but as a home, Rome is ideal.
Please forward that to Aulas
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For next season, I think we have a very very good left winger… which is named Ben Harfa. But I think he is so young et inexperienced, that he needs a very good left wingers with him to switch on the left side, for all the season.
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I won’t be against an exchange Malouda-Zenden+5 millions euros. Zenden has different qualities; he’s not as explosive as malouda however, he’s got a lot of experience and he speak french. It would be the same deal when we sold Essien and we get Tiago. We lose in explosivness and weight but we won in accuracy and class. Or we can trust the pair Benarfa-Belhadj(who’s more a winger than a left defender) and look for an new left defender;there was rumors on Armand even if he said he wanted to stay with PSG(what a fool).
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I agree : Belhadj is reaally better as a winger than as a defenser.
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I wouldn’t mind Zenden except he’s on the wrong side of 30. It doesn’t make sense to get him now when Lyon could get someone even a few years younger. I would have liked Sissoko from Liverpool if I could pick any player, but I doubt that will happen.
About Armand, if you believe Le Parisien, Lyon will be submitting an offer to them for Armand now that Barca is back in for Malouda.
Also according to Le Parisien, Chelsea have submitted a €20million bid, Liverpool with €15million. Haha. Keep in mind that this is the paper that reported Houllier was going to Kiev with so much certainty a few weeks back.
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Yeah, no sylvan armand, he is no better then good old eric deflandre (reads de-flop-re). Go with what we got, Berthod and Belhadj should do the job for half a year and then if not theres the winter window.
As for Zenden, do people watch him in matches??? He is horrible, he doesnt do anything. In th CL final he touched the ball and then lost it immediately. Our system requires our wingers to be quick and skillful, then get crosses or shots in. Zenden can do neither, but in reality he really just doesnt have it. One of those Dutch players that made the rounds through Europe on little merit, more reputation for the explosive Dutch youth of 95 and 96. Seedorf is the only guy who is still really ticking, though Davids was good in his day.Stick with Ben Arfa on the wing, and obviously we will need some cover, and I honestly do not have an obvious targets. Mancini loves Rome, he will stay. Maybe if we keep Wiltord he can play on the left, he did a couple times over the years and did reasonably well, he would be a good option to Ben Arfa. WHoever is brought in on the left wing should be considered backup to Ben Arfa to start with, if he does better then Ben Arfa then he can start, but Ben Arfa is the future just like Benz. Also, we are down to 3 center backs, any news on a new defender, or is Sandy Pauillot going to be promoted (one hopes so)
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If I could have any Dutch player, I would like Wesley Sneijder. He’s totally within Lyon’s reach – the club can afford his transfer fee AND salary. And he likes Lyon, the most important thing. But now that we have Bodmer, it would be dumb to have Sneijder unless another midfielder, either Fabio Santos or Kallstrom, leaves.
Yeah, I saw the Lyon want Mancini rumors floating around this morning, and Chris from the Roma Offside gave me a heads up last night here. I don’t think there’s any truth to it, though. Lyon has recently been linked with every winger besides Cristiano Ronaldo. Nani, Tuncay, Quaresma, Babel, Robben, Ashley Cole, Akale, Ziani, Simao, and now Mancini. Anyway, Mancini isn’t what the club need for further progress. He’s a luxury player, not a utility player. He has too many poor games to be worth the money, or Aulas would have gone for him already. If we do get a left winger (though I don’t think it’s entirely necessary, because as has been mentioned, Belhadj can play as an LW too, and so can Keita and Benzema, and in freak situations, Kallstrom!), it’ll probably be Ziani, or if Liverpool buy Malouda, then perhaps Simao.
Also, apparently Bettiol is wanted on loan by Lorient and a few other L2 clubs. He, along with Beynie and Paillot, may be loaned out. I certainly hope so, as I think they have potential but need playing time to develop.
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Zenden came back of an injury when he played the CL final so i guess its normal he didn’t do anything. Seedorf do one or two good match a season just like Carew.
Ben arfa needs more time but is not ready to replace malouda in all matches. Benzema has a lot of muscular problem which is very worrying for a young player(usually muscular problems come with the age)Posted from
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I say let Bettiol go out on loan along with Paillot and Beynie, but also Benhamida and definately Remy. They all need playing time, but usually what happens is they become lost, like Sartre, Viale, Idangar, Hima, Clement etc. and never end up in the first team. I think loans are great for young players, but at big clubs they simply buy someone else to replace the young guy in the squad and when he comes back he is even further down the pecking order. We all can agree that Benhamida, Paillot, Remy and Beynie have tremendous potential. Bettiol I am not convinced of, so a loan would be a great option.
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Interestingly, I don’t think Remy will be loaned out this year. He might be kept (probably has to do with his superb performances at the Tournoi de Toulan this month). He might be kept as a backup to Govou and Keita, as I’m sure Wiltord will leave to another club or terminate his contract.
Lyon might also loan out Baros, but more on that later.
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I don’t understand why U do not like so much Baros, Inara.
I sware that’s a good player, I saw in Gerland that he just needs to have repair with his team, and to adapt him with french football… That will come, I’m sure ! I hope he will stay, and Why not playing in 4-4-2 with him. I’d really like to, with Fred and Baros/Benzema (turn over)Posted from
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Actually, I like Baros. I think he’s a very steady sort of player, and I like that he’s not temperamental, like Fred. I feel kind of bad for him because his reception in France wasn’t what he had hoped for. First of all, Fred starts all the drama that Lyon signed another attacker, and then Juni confronted Houllier about it. Then there was that whole incident with MBia, and then his suspension. I think he will do better next year.
But I don’t know if he’ll fit within Perrin’s plans, and I think if the club had to choose between Baros and Trezeguet, they would choose Trezeguet. The loan rumors are still faint, so don’t worry (the club mentioned was Villareal).
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Inara, when you get news on any youth teamers going out on loan let me know. I want to keep track of their performances for this years edition of FIFA. Remy played really well in Toulon, he has alot of promise, like Govou when he was young. I hope they dont squander that potential by having to many players in front of him
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I’ll let you know. The only official loan at the moment is Benhamida to Sedan.
Riou will most likely be loaned back to Lorient since Vercoutre is staying. Bettiol, Beynie, and Paillot are loan candidates, as I think Remy will stay.
I actually woudn’t mind seeing Paillot given a shot on the first team, as he did well at Toulon too. This would free Lyon from the burden of having to find another defender since Cacapa and Abidal are leaving.
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I agree, the Toulon tournamnet was ig for the France U-20 this year since they didnt qualify for Holland. I say use Paillot as the 4th defender, he has encouragin qualities. And I agree Remy will stay because of the “loan sickness” where players go out on loan and never come back. Auluas not only wants to have all the French NT, he wants to make players into national team players, to be a exclusive provider. Bettiol could go to Lorient if i heard right, while Beynie is Ligue 2 material for now. Benhamida is a right move since Clerc and Rev are staying on, but he will get his chance.
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I really like Aulas’s policy in that he wants to strengthen the NT. In this day and age of buying from abroad, Aulas has a lot of pride for the national team, and he loves having so many internationals. Fabio Santos (and now Bodmer) are the only two players who haven’t represented their countries yet.
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Aulas doesn’t LOVE the Nt. That’s one of his ploy to get young players on the verge of being selected to come to Lyon and nowhere else. Everybody knows his relationship with Domenech who watched no less than 25 Lyon games last season. When Aulas calls you, the possibility of being supervised by the national manager is an argument. But look at the long list of players who came because of it: Pedretti, Luyindula, Toulalan, Bodmer, Diarra(came to consolidate his world cup final performance), Vairelles, Pierre Laigle, Wiltord(came back to insure he’d play Euro 2004), Jean Marc Chanelet, Eric Carrière, Frederic Née, Eric Abidal, Florent Malouda, Anthony Reveillères and Sylvain Monsoreau. Some of these guys didn’t make it to the team but playing for Lyon is definitly a good look for them. Funny how Reveilleres plays at Lyon but Clerc plays in the NT at the same position. Somehow it is harder to start for Lyon than France.
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Actually, I think Aulas does love the NT, in the sense that he loves providing players for it. It seems to be his ultimate goal in life to make sure that as many Lyon players are on the France NT as possible. And if you compare Lyon to a lot of other French teams, such as PSG and Marseille, Lyon have more French players.
It’s true that not everyone who comes to Lyon makes it, but in the end, they weren’t good enough. Pedretti, Monsoreau, etc, just weren’t starting material. But that’s not going to stop players from being ambitious. Nine times out of ten, players in France want to play for Lyon more than any other French club in the hopes of becoming the next Essien/Malouda/Diarra. The possibility of becoming a star is too hard to resist.
As for Clerc/Reveillere – it is weird, but Clerc is a lot younger, and perhaps Domenech is planning for the future, since Reveillere is already 27.
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In all due respect, I think you should come here. Because I do believe this to be a distorted view. If you want to be a “star”, there’s no better way than to shine at Marseille or Paris because if there’s one thing those two club can prepare you for is pressure. Lyon did not “exist” 8 years ago. Marseille and Paris did. Which is why when players shine with OM like Ribery or Nasri, they get starting gigs with the NT right away. Whereas people like Malouda (who’s been conssitently good ever since he was feeeding drogba in guimgamp) had to gain another satus to play. The reason why french players don’t want to come to Paris or Marseille is because they know they’ll have to be competitive from the first match whereas in Lyon, even though they’ve become a big club, there is no tradition of winning and supporting. If Lyon fails, nobody will be at Tola Vologe the next day. Whereas Marseille and Paris are scary places for players.
But don’t believe one second that Aulas is doing it for the NT. He’s doing it for his own benefit. Last year, pretexting to go and see “his” players in germany, he managed to start negociating with Ribery and Diarra, starting the whole Ribery controversy of last summer. There’s a reason why people hate this guy. BUt you have to respect his ruthlessness.Posted from
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I can’t believe what I just read !!! Madsear… Did U ever went in Lyon ? I don’t think so…
You just seems to be the typical “anti-lyonnais”, with no senses arguments. When you play for Lyon you HAVE the pression, always, because people and supporters are waiting for a victory, and no other result. This year, Lyon did the absolute european record, and here in Lyon I have heard that the season was a bad one ! There are ALWAYS a lot of supporters in Tola Vologe.
And concerning the “no tradition of winning and supporting”, I just wanna say that if this tradition really exists in Marseille… WHY Any Revolution has been doing since 1993 in Marseille, because of the winning of NO trophy ? Why La bonne mère isn’t burning ??? lol
St Etienne was the French club of 70’s year, Paris of the 80’s years, OM was the one of 90’s year.
YOU HAVE TO accept that Lyon is the French club of 2000’s years…I think Inara, despite that she is very far from Gerland, is very discerning about what happens here. I don’t always agree with her opinions of OL players, but she’s always objective with her observations of what happen here.
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Sorry, but all this talk of long history is pointless. So what if Lyon wasn’t a big club eight years ago? But a club has to start from somewhere. And let’s be honest – it’s not like Marseille and PSG did anything these past eight years to come close to getting a title.
Lyon not wanting to win? Umm…what has Marseille won since their Tapie-influenced CL win in 1993? It seems that a club who is so into winning would have gotten back on track long before now.
We all know that Lyon has a weaker fanbase than the OM, and it’s a credit to the club that despite their lack of results, they still come out in droves. But again, it takes time to build a fanbase and loyal supporters, as this kind of thing starts from childhood. Most Lyon fans supported other clubs growing up because it was in D2 when they were kids.
As for there not being pressure at Lyon – I don’t think you know what you’re talking about here. Granted, no one fears for their life, so I suppose players feel safer, but bottom line is, if you don’t do well, you don’t play at Lyon. Only Ribery would have been good enough for a starting spot at Lyon, while Nasri is still too young and inexperienced to surpass Tiago and Juninho (though I do think that Nasri has more talent – he just needs time).
And about the NT thing – Ribery is a real talent and would have gotten noticed no matter which major league he was in. Nasri shined for OM this year, got a call up. So too did Benzema, I recall. And Toulalan. And Squillaci. And Clerc. Marseille isn’t the only place a person can “shine.”
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I’m not saying you can’t shine in Lyon but that Marseille and Paris are magnifying glasses when it comes to that particular area. Look at Ben Arfa who in my opinion is as talented as Nasri but being sheltered in Lyon is making him lose some precious experience. I really believe Benzema wouldn’t have been where he’s at if Elber and then Carew didn’t pan out to be utter failures. he’s better than Fred in my opinion and I hope he’ll start more than just 12 games next season.
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And don’t U think that Nasri played with Marseille because OM had several problems in the middle of the season ? They didn’t find any solution but trying a young and motivate player.
I’m not sure Ben Arfa lose his time in training with players like Juninho, Coupet, Malouda, Wiltord… He is still young, he have to learn.
I really love Ben Arfa. But he will become the next Malouda when he will learn to be patient. We saw that this year. He’s been better and better, and he sayd himself he understood that he was too hurry. He has to wait and work. I’m not worrying about him and his future in the NT.Posted from
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If you’re referring to magnifying glasses, the reverse side of the argument is that in a less talented side, it’s easier for a player to shine. For example, Kallstrom, Diarra, Toulalan, etc, are good enough to be starters for almost all other L1 teams, but at Lyon, with the depth and quality of manpower, they have to fight to play. So yes, in that case, for Nasri, playing in a club where he is a starter makes it easier to get noticed. But on the flip side, does that mean he would have a harder time getting noticed elsewhere?
As for Ben Arfa, he’s a special case. It wasn’t so much that he wasn’t playing due to his lack of talent but his attitude. He showed up late for multiple training sessions, wasn’t being serious, and lost his temper easily (getting red carded in a CFA game).
For what it’s worth, I adore Ben Arfa. I wrote an entire post just on why I think he’s the most talented player in Ligue 1. And I would rather he be loaned out to PSG or something to get playing time than to rot on the bench.
But Perrin appreciates Ben Arfa and promised to work with him. So let’s hope that he’ll join Nasri and Benzema in the NT.
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