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		<title>By: Jao</title>
		<link>http://lyon.theoffside.com/team-news/sos-ligue-1-in-danger.html#comment-10682</link>
		<dc:creator>Jao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TBF, small clubs usually don&#039;t keep good players for more than a year, especially if a big club is attracted to them. 

If this isn&#039;t overturned, however, the transfer market would explode. I mean I could understand if the both the club and the player agreed to the buy-out, YES. But for C. Ronaldo to just walk into United and hand them 10 million pounds and signed with Madrid for nothing is utterly ridiculous. That alone would probably force CAS and FIFA to re-think their idiocy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TBF, small clubs usually don&#8217;t keep good players for more than a year, especially if a big club is attracted to them. </p>
<p>If this isn&#8217;t overturned, however, the transfer market would explode. I mean I could understand if the both the club and the player agreed to the buy-out, YES. But for C. Ronaldo to just walk into United and hand them 10 million pounds and signed with Madrid for nothing is utterly ridiculous. That alone would probably force CAS and FIFA to re-think their idiocy.</p>
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		<title>By: Inara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should clarify - Malouda&#039;s contract at that point had three years on it when it was extended for a fourth year. Malouda had extended his contact before the World Cup I believe and then did so again next November. But Abidal refused to accept a new contract and higher wages to keep his contract ending at 2009, so Lyon had to sell him last summer. 

I guess it&#039;s hard to say what affects this will have on the club side of things because the process of offering new contracts won&#039;t change. But I&#039;m afraid that it will make things easier for players to leave. Jan, you and I follow leagues that are less cash strapped, and we both know that eventually, money smells awfully good. So say a club signs a promising player to a four year contract and lures him with as high wages as they can afford. The player accepts, but then the following year, he buys out the rest of his contract with money probably covered by the club that wants to buy him. So essentially, small clubs won&#039;t be able to keep good players more than a year, at best two. So I guess that&#039;s what has me worried. At least right now you can bully a player into staying an extra year (what Lyon did with Abidal after the WC), but now they can&#039;t even do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should clarify &#8211; Malouda&#8217;s contract at that point had three years on it when it was extended for a fourth year. Malouda had extended his contact before the World Cup I believe and then did so again next November. But Abidal refused to accept a new contract and higher wages to keep his contract ending at 2009, so Lyon had to sell him last summer. </p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s hard to say what affects this will have on the club side of things because the process of offering new contracts won&#8217;t change. But I&#8217;m afraid that it will make things easier for players to leave. Jan, you and I follow leagues that are less cash strapped, and we both know that eventually, money smells awfully good. So say a club signs a promising player to a four year contract and lures him with as high wages as they can afford. The player accepts, but then the following year, he buys out the rest of his contract with money probably covered by the club that wants to buy him. So essentially, small clubs won&#8217;t be able to keep good players more than a year, at best two. So I guess that&#8217;s what has me worried. At least right now you can bully a player into staying an extra year (what Lyon did with Abidal after the WC), but now they can&#8217;t even do that.</p>
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		<title>By: rougebleu</title>
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		<dc:creator>rougebleu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Players will leave regardlessly, this only lets us know they really want to leave.  And the new ruling will put more pressure on teams to do better and keep their players.  I for one think this is a good thing, teams have not been as competitive as they should be in the French league, and will have to be managed as if the players are already where they want to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players will leave regardlessly, this only lets us know they really want to leave.  And the new ruling will put more pressure on teams to do better and keep their players.  I for one think this is a good thing, teams have not been as competitive as they should be in the French league, and will have to be managed as if the players are already where they want to be.</p>
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		<title>By: pride of Lyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>pride of Lyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan unfortunately this works partially. Let&#039;s take Fred&#039;s example. He earns 2.5 millions a year (is it?). So even with a 3 year contract left, he could leave for 7.5 millions.
He is worth more if you consider the actual market value. Lyon can&#039;t pay him more. If they wanted to make out for the money they paid for him (15 millions), they would have to pay him 5 millions a year. If you do that with all our under 28 players you end up with a crazy bill. You say clubs could sign players for 4 years at least, but that&#039;s taking a lot of risks for a club.

Anyway whatever the system, the big guns will take advantage of it. Unless we forbid transfers and clubs only played with their homegrown players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan unfortunately this works partially. Let&#8217;s take Fred&#8217;s example. He earns 2.5 millions a year (is it?). So even with a 3 year contract left, he could leave for 7.5 millions.<br />
He is worth more if you consider the actual market value. Lyon can&#8217;t pay him more. If they wanted to make out for the money they paid for him (15 millions), they would have to pay him 5 millions a year. If you do that with all our under 28 players you end up with a crazy bill. You say clubs could sign players for 4 years at least, but that&#8217;s taking a lot of risks for a club.</p>
<p>Anyway whatever the system, the big guns will take advantage of it. Unless we forbid transfers and clubs only played with their homegrown players.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking a bit and came to the conclusion that the changes are probably not that earth shatering, even for smaller clubs. It&#039;ll really just change a few details in the way clubs and players negotiate with each other.

E.g. Inara mentioned that Aulaus extended Malouda&#039;s contract six months before he moved to Chelsea. He wouldn&#039;t have done so, if it wasn&#039;t for the Bosman ruling. Hamburg have been trying to get van der Vaart to sign a new and much improved contract to get rid of a €1.5m buyout clause, which kicks in in 2009. van der Vaart decided against higher wages, because he plans to move to a bigger club, and fears that this new contract would have made him too expensive.

This protected time period of three years isn&#039;t any different to a contract which is running out soon or a buyout clause. Clubs will probably make it a habit of handing out three or four year contracts to players and then will approach them after one season, offering them better wages and probably some cash for a new signature, which would reset the protected period. The player then has to decide, whether he wants to play one or two more seasons for less money, just to be cheap for other clubs, or whether he wants higher wages while being more expensive for other clubs.

I think feeder leagues and clubs could still protect their assets this way, or at least safe wages if the players are intend to leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a bit and came to the conclusion that the changes are probably not that earth shatering, even for smaller clubs. It&#8217;ll really just change a few details in the way clubs and players negotiate with each other.</p>
<p>E.g. Inara mentioned that Aulaus extended Malouda&#8217;s contract six months before he moved to Chelsea. He wouldn&#8217;t have done so, if it wasn&#8217;t for the Bosman ruling. Hamburg have been trying to get van der Vaart to sign a new and much improved contract to get rid of a €1.5m buyout clause, which kicks in in 2009. van der Vaart decided against higher wages, because he plans to move to a bigger club, and fears that this new contract would have made him too expensive.</p>
<p>This protected time period of three years isn&#8217;t any different to a contract which is running out soon or a buyout clause. Clubs will probably make it a habit of handing out three or four year contracts to players and then will approach them after one season, offering them better wages and probably some cash for a new signature, which would reset the protected period. The player then has to decide, whether he wants to play one or two more seasons for less money, just to be cheap for other clubs, or whether he wants higher wages while being more expensive for other clubs.</p>
<p>I think feeder leagues and clubs could still protect their assets this way, or at least safe wages if the players are intend to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the changing political climate in France, their is hope that the tax structures are changed and that different labor laws will help football. The Webster ruling is essentially the final nail in the coffin of contracts. If a player can buy out his contract, what is the point of signing one? This decision will surely be overturned, as it could send football into chaos as greedy EPL teams begin offering to recoup players for buying out their contracts so they dont have to pay high transfer fees. Its a sad ruling, and it could ruin football. 

Football, like other professional sports, is a business, and these types of rulings make in so much more difficult to run a business and make a profit. Government bodies and courts should realize this before they setup laws or rulings that while helping the individual, will hurt the organization more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the changing political climate in France, their is hope that the tax structures are changed and that different labor laws will help football. The Webster ruling is essentially the final nail in the coffin of contracts. If a player can buy out his contract, what is the point of signing one? This decision will surely be overturned, as it could send football into chaos as greedy EPL teams begin offering to recoup players for buying out their contracts so they dont have to pay high transfer fees. Its a sad ruling, and it could ruin football. </p>
<p>Football, like other professional sports, is a business, and these types of rulings make in so much more difficult to run a business and make a profit. Government bodies and courts should realize this before they setup laws or rulings that while helping the individual, will hurt the organization more.</p>
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		<title>By: Ara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monopolization, or better yet Oligopolies similar to large corporations. NWO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monopolization, or better yet Oligopolies similar to large corporations. NWO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think cheap transfers inside France could be prevented if French laws are different to EU laws. E.g. Bundesliga clubs have to fear clubs from other European leagues but not themselves as the protected period is five years instead of three according to German law (and according to some bbs where I read that). The EU law in place here only applies if a player wants to move abroad, which of course is still bad enough. 

Maybe managers will find some clever ways to circumvent this loophole or FIFA will try and change their transfer laws or it won&#039;t be all that bad or we&#039;re all doomed indeed. Quite a complex situation.:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think cheap transfers inside France could be prevented if French laws are different to EU laws. E.g. Bundesliga clubs have to fear clubs from other European leagues but not themselves as the protected period is five years instead of three according to German law (and according to some bbs where I read that). The EU law in place here only applies if a player wants to move abroad, which of course is still bad enough. </p>
<p>Maybe managers will find some clever ways to circumvent this loophole or FIFA will try and change their transfer laws or it won&#8217;t be all that bad or we&#8217;re all doomed indeed. Quite a complex situation.:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Inara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me a wimp, but I might need to find a new team and a new league to prevent my heart from being broken in the near future.

This entire situation is just SO SAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me a wimp, but I might need to find a new team and a new league to prevent my heart from being broken in the near future.</p>
<p>This entire situation is just SO SAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Shazback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shazback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More good news to mull : LFP haven&#039;t awarded the TV Rights yet. Apparently, they didn&#039;t cover the &quot;reserve&quot; amounts in 6 of the 12 lots. Meaning that the overall value is guessed to be about 500M€ per season... Against 600M€ now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More good news to mull : LFP haven&#8217;t awarded the TV Rights yet. Apparently, they didn&#8217;t cover the &#8220;reserve&#8221; amounts in 6 of the 12 lots. Meaning that the overall value is guessed to be about 500M€ per season&#8230; Against 600M€ now&#8230;</p>
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