The Real Derby

By: John | August 30th, 2008


One derby down, one to go. Sunday Lyon will be traveling to Le Stade Geoffroy-Guichard to take on A.S. St. Etienne in the second derby of the season. This is the 96th derby the two teams have participated in. After having handled Grenoble Foot 38 in the first derby, Lyon will have to contend with a St. Etienne side who,despite having lost two of their first three matches, may put up a fight since finding their offensive game in their last game against Sochaux.

ASSE have gotten off to a bad start after finishing 5th in L1 last year. They are (1-2) after three matches and currently in 15th place in the table with only 3 points. They have (1)win at home(Sochaux) and (2) away loses(Le Mans and Valenciennes). They have scored (2) goals- both at home- and conceaded (3) goals, one in each game. Matuidi(1) and Feinduno(1) have been their goal scorers.

History is most definetly not on Les Verts’ side. St. Etienne have not defeated Lyon in 14 years and 17 matches!!! St. Etienne’s last victory against Lyon, came in the form of a 3-0 victory at Stade Geoffroy-Guichard in 1994. The closest Le Stephanois have come to a victory since then, was last year when Karim Benzema plunged a dagger into the heart of Les Verts’ fans by netting a “Juniesque” goal on a set-piece, free kick in the 92nd minute, to pull the game from the clutches of ASSE and end the match in a 1-1 draw.

Derby History: in (17) Matches, (9)Lyon victories, (7) at Stade Gerland and (2) at St. Etienne. (8) Draws, (6) having come at St. Etienne.
-Current Players who have scored in the Derby: Benzema (1), Govou (1), Kallstrom (1), Juninho (1), Gomis (1).
-Current players who have worn both jerseys in the derby: Frederic Piquionne(Lyon) and Sylvain Monsoreau(St. Etienne).

The Lille LOSC connection: And interesting tidbit of information is that it will be packed with former Lille players and personel. Here is a list of former players and personel on both sides, taking part in this derby: Claude Puel, St. Etienne manager Laurent Roussey(Puel’s former assistant at Lille), Patrick Collot(Puel’s current assistant), Mathieu Bodmer, Kader Keita, Jean II Makoun, Emmanuel Ohrant(Lyon doctor), Efstathios Tavalaridis, Geoffrey Dernis, Cristophe Landrin, and David Guion(St. Etienne coaching staff).

Out: Fabio Santos is back from Brazil, but should be ready to play in about 3 weeks. Mensah, Hartock and Keita are out; and obviously Clerc.
Puel was asked about the suspension of Fabio Grosso and what he planned to do about the side-back problem. Here’s his response: “As for the side back post, we have 4/5 solutions: Reveillere, Boumsong, Kallstrom, Gassama, and Thimothe. We’ll try to find the best solution. I already know what I’m going to do. Start one of the novices? I won’t rule that idea out entirely.”
What a tease!!!
Also asked about playing Benzema on the left-wing again, Puel had this to say: Benzema on the left-wing, we’ll see. It’s a possibility, nothing is written in stone. He was good in this position against Grenoble. At this position, he’s an attacker and not a midfielder.

Le Group Lyonnais: Lloris,Vercourtre- Reveillere, Gassama, Cris, Bodmer, Bodmer, Kolodzieckziak, Makoun, Juninho, Toulalan, Kallstrom, Govou, Piquionne, Benzema, Ederson, Pjanic, Fred, Delgado, Mounier.

Expected Line Up:

—————-Lloris——————–
Reveillere—Cris——Bodmer—-Kallstrom
——–Toulalan——Makoun———–
Govou———Juninho———–Ederson
—————Benzema—————–

This what I expect to see, but who knows what Puel will do with the side-back situation. I’d like to see this lineup with two changes: Boumsong in for Bodmer, and Bodmer next to Toulalan and Makoun as the a third central midfielder; annd Ederson out with Juni on the right and Govou on the left.

I hope St. Etienne don’t get up for this game. Although they’ve looked anemic the first two games, they seem to have found their rythm in the third game, having scored two goals. I hope they don’t continue their awakening and go back to sleep offensively. But being that this is a derby against their most hated rival and at home, I expect ASSE to be pumped. Lyon’s main concern will be the side-back situation due to Fabio Grosso’s suspension. Hopefully, Boumsong will be in back central defense in-place of Bodmer. I prefer Kallstrom at left back with Makoun tracking-back to help. And hopefully Puel doesn’t get any ideas about a 4-2-2 and Benzema will be the lone striker and Piquionne relegated to the bench at the start of the game. Barring any colossal defensive mistakes I’m predicting a 2-1 Lyon win.
Both Inara and I will be away from our computers on match day, so please post any working streams here for our fellow readers.






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  • rougebleu |  September 4th, 2008 at 8:45 am

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    SG did you see Gassama play in any of the warm ups? He’s faster than both of them, and has a pretty decent cross for his age. Puel will probably develop him in the easier games, or the cup matches. I am glad we didn’t over recruit.

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  • John |  September 4th, 2008 at 11:49 am

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    I don’t think one more sideback would have been over-recruiting. I think either/both Grosso and Reveillere will be gone at the end of the season, and who know’s if and when Clerc will return to form. Too bad we can’t convert one of the surplus midfielders into a right back.

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  • John |  September 4th, 2008 at 11:55 am

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    I read somewhere that Gassama can also play CB. Does anyone know if this is true?

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  • rougebleu |  September 4th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

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    A loan move maybe, but once clerc comes back in the winter, it’ll be four players for one spot. And I like Clerc. So it’s more personal than anything. I thought he was getting better with every season.

    As for Gassama I think he can play on the left as well as the right. Not sure about CB. Seems to me I read that somewhere too.

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  • Ronan "The Don" Napier |  September 6th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

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    Im sorry but the defence really isnt strong enough to go anywhere in the champions league,i mean pretty much we have 2 CB 2 full backs.

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  • Minal |  September 6th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

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    NOOOO! Fabio Grosso is severely injured. What the heck does OL do now?

    http://francefootball.fr/FF/breves2008/20080907_005628_grosse-gravement-blesse_Dev.html

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  • John |  September 6th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

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    Well, I guess Kallstrom is going to get alot more playing time than we all thought, at left back.

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  • Ronald |  September 6th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

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    glad to see good old Ronan back, i wonder if he’s gonna suggest more Cup-tied players that have high slalries for Lyon to pick up :) .

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  • Pride of Lyon |  September 6th, 2008 at 11:42 pm

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    Yes, Apparently Grosso had a bad injury… should be out for a while…
    1- I hope that Grosso is OK and doesn’t suffer too much, and that he will come back soon.
    2- I am not that worried anyway, we have a few players who can play left back even it it is not their favourite position ; Reveillere, Kallstrom, Gassama, Kolo’, Mensah

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  • Ronan "The Don" Napier |  September 7th, 2008 at 3:26 am

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    Wow a back line including boumsong and kallstrom really does look strong(not!)

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  • Ronan "The Don" Napier |  September 7th, 2008 at 3:31 am

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    Oh and i thought the hole point in bringing kolodecziak was to use him as cover for full back otherwise that was a waste of time,if kallstroms the man for the job.oh and Ronald my man of the moment is Martin Petrov,cummon we needed a left winger.

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  • Andy |  September 7th, 2008 at 4:22 am

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    I want Quaresma, not Petrov

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  • Ronan "The Don" Napier |  September 7th, 2008 at 5:28 am

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    Well then Andy, start supporting Inter Milan coz ricardo is not coming here in the nere future is he.

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  • Sam |  September 7th, 2008 at 6:53 am

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    Can we not do this whole inane football manager style speculation again. It’s completely tedious. Petrov fits the bill perfectly of what Ronald describes as well

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  • Andy |  September 7th, 2008 at 7:15 am

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    Quaresma is a player for the future, Petrov ain’t. He’s getting old fast…

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  • sidney govou |  September 7th, 2008 at 7:31 am

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    Petrov in Lyon? Who can say such a stupid thing? On lef flank we have Delgado, Pjanić, Ederson ( who play against Lorient at that position ) and Keita when he returns. So, we have theree players on that position + Ederson or even Govou.

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  • Ronald |  September 7th, 2008 at 10:25 am

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    i should have put ( sarcasm ) at the end of my post. I actually didnt want Ronan to sugest anyone.

    Petrov plays for Manchester City, a team that just got a new rich owner with alot of money, why would he come over here if he knows he would be cutting his pay by alot.[ forget about this ]

    Queresma is extremely talented, but he has a ego problem. We had this problem last year ( see HBA ). Plus we went after him before and he said no, so i dont know why we would still be interested in him. Plus he’s an Inter player now, which means his skills will be useless in the Mourinho’s Style of Football play. [ Vaya con Dios ].

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  • Ronan "The Don" Napier |  September 7th, 2008 at 11:28 am

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    yer but govou,the players you mentioned are not out and out left wibgers are they

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  • Inara |  September 7th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

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    I don’t know what to say in light of Grosso’s injury.

    I just hope he gets better soon and that it won’t be a long lay off like Clerc’s.

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  • Jo |  September 8th, 2008 at 1:39 am

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    He’s out for one month.
    That means no Grosso for OL / Fiorentina and Bayern / OL.

    Will we buy (find ??) a medical joker ?

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  • Megame |  September 8th, 2008 at 1:41 am

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    Apparently, he suffers from 2 broken ribs and is out for 4 weeks. In my (painful) personal experience, that’s a minimum…

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  • Inara |  September 8th, 2008 at 4:46 am

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    If the transfer window is over, how does it work, recruiting a medical joker? And why didn’t we do it last year when he had so many players out?

    Anyway, even if OL did get someone else, he couldn’t play in the Champions League because the deadline to submit players for the competition is already over. Kallstrom/Boumsong/TK are enough for L1, and we’ll really only be missing Grosso against Fiorentina and Bayern, so I don’t know if recruiting another player will solve any problems.

    Plus he’d also have to be unemployed at the moment.

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  • Jo |  September 8th, 2008 at 5:35 am

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    I think so.
    That means Mensah will probably be our LW for the first 2 games in champion’s league. If he’s not injured…

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  • Ronan "The Don" Napier |  September 8th, 2008 at 7:53 am

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    I no just the right thing to do bring in celestine babayaro,absoloutly no issues therehe is a free agent and a decent left back

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  • Nikola |  September 8th, 2008 at 9:46 am

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    It seems that Gamberini also suffered an injury during the game against Cyprus, so both Lyon and Fiorentina have defensive worries because of that one game. Not sure about Viola, but losing Grosso seems like a serious blow to our chances – he’s not only our first-choice left-back, he’s also our only Italian. However, I believe that we don’t need any joker-signings: if Mensah, Boumsong and Kalstrom can play in that position, they better start training it as soon as possible. Just look at Bodmer and how well he is doing… :)

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