WEEKLY TRANSER RUMOR ROUND-UP PART III

By: John | July 3rd, 2009
   


Hotting up.

IN:

Lisandro Lopez: JMA himself was supposed to be in Portugal today to personaly finalize the deal for Lisandro, but management dropped a bomb today on Porto! In L’Equipe, Bernard Lacombe announced that management had called-off the trip to Portugal today, as well as divulging that negotiations for Toulouse striker Andre Pierre Gignac were underway(see more below). I love this man, Aulas! Reportedly, last week, JMA made a bid for 18mill plus performance bonuses which pushed the price to 20mill which met Porto’s intial valuation of the player, but after this week saw Lucho Gonzalez’s sale to Marseille, Porto pulled the rug out-from-under OL and jacked the price up to 25mill. At first I thought that Aulas seemed to have found a negotiating nemesis, for all those headaches he’s given other teams in the past, but I don’t ever remember him raising the price after negotiations have begun. Do any of you veteran fans with longer historical references know if that is the case or not? JMA was thought to be ready to up the bid to 20mill today, but Porto apparently got a taste of their own medicine- although their ian official statement by OL stating that an offer of 20mill was submitted today, so maybe JMA might not be playing hardball after all. Anyway, either Porto want more money or they don’t want to sell Lisandro, either way, hopefully this the last bid OL make.
The one postive thing is that Lopez’s agent Fernando Hidalgo is really steamed and declared that Lisandro will never sign an extentsion with Porto, hence they risk him leaving on a free tranfer at the end of this season and getting nothing in return. Hopefully Hidalgo continues to twist Porto’s arm. We’ll see if this thing’s over or not in the coming week; management have rescheduled the meeting for next week.

Andre Pierre Gignac: According to comments made by Bernarde Lacombe in L’ Equipe, Gignac has told him that he would like to move to OL. Despite TFC’s president Olivier Sadran’s adamancy about Gignac’s not being for sale, Lacombe insists that negotiations are under way, although TFC has released an official statement on their site stating that Andre is not for sale. Supposedly, Lacombe has spoken with his agent and father, and all seem to be in agreement. Let’s see how the other signings play or don’t play-out. No terms have been disclosed.

David Trezeguet: Most probably a fall-back after Lisandro, and Gignac, the purchase price is supposed to be around 8mill, but I don’t know what his salary is. The concerns are obviously his age and the serious knee inury he sustained last year, possibly hampering his production.

Ruud Van Nistelrooy: Another fall-back, RVN supposedly wants to stay at the Bernabeu, and is happy to stay on the bench. The only problem with that is that Real have 29 players and can only register 25, so a few players will remain without a chair when the music stops, and most speculate it will be the Dutch players who are shown the door. I don’t know if it’s official, but you can already see that two players have been left without numbers, on Real’s official site, both M. Diarra and Ruud appear without numbers.
Ruud’s wages are quite heafty, much more so than Trez’s, plus his age- he’s even older than David- and again last year’s injury and how he will rebound from it are real concerns.

Andre Pierre Gignac: According to comments made by Bernarde Lacombe in L’Equipe, Gignac told him that he would like to move to OL. Supposedly, Lacombe has spoken with his agent and father, and all seem to be in agreement. Let’s see how the other signings play or don’t play-out.

Richard Soumah: It seems this might be our first catch of the season. The Guingamp winger-midfielder is said to have agreed to terms today with OL. Reports are that the deal was worth 3mill. We’ll wait for his unveiling.

Loic Remy: SEE “MOUNIER” BELOW.

Klaas Jan Huntelaar: The Dutchman has made it clear in the past that he doesn’t want to come to OL, but his name keeps floating around, and at the end of the day, maybe he rethinks things and decides first team football is more important than rotting away on the bench at Real or worse, not even having a number.

OUT:

Karim Benzema: Benz is gone to Real Madrid for 35mill plus performance bonuses that would drive the price up to 41mill.

Kader Keita: Is officialy on his way out the door. The 18mill Euro flop has signed on with Galatasaray for a reported 7mill which could reach 8-8.5mill with performance bonuses, depending on which source you trust. I just have one question: What is Frank Rijkaard smoking? Well, I guess it’s not a bad buy at that price. Keita’s departure clears the way for Pjanic to become the official back-up winger, and unloads a boatload of salary. Thank you Gala! First Baros, now Keita, and maybe Mensah in the future.

Grosso: Grosso is still on the fence about whether he is coming or going. He supposedly had a talk with Puel this week about what he wants to do, but no word on what was said at that meeting. Rumors of Juve getting ready to make a play for him, continue to come and go.

Francois Clerc: A wisper is outhere that Juventus are interested in Clerc and since, from what I understand, Clerc hasn’t signed an extension yet, coupled with the rumor that Francois is getting the itch to go on a foreign adventure, there might be some truth to this.

Anthony Mounier: Hahahahahahaha. Nice are reportedly offering Loic at a very steep price: 16mill plus Anthony Mounier, plus Miralem Pjanic on a loan deal. Cohen is really trying to milk Aulas. As if the 23mill he payed for Ederson and Hugo Lloris last year, was really unfair, and now it’s payback time! Hopefully JMA tells Cohen to piss-off too.

John Mensah: Rumors are that Mensah still wants to leave, although nothing heavy seems to be in the air as of late, the Galatasaray rumors have crawled to a hault.

Cris: Goal.com France claims Cris is looking to leave, as he is at odds with manager Claude Puel.


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  • aleksander

    Buying Gignac depends on what formation we'd use. for 4-3-3 i think we should rather use our money on Bastos and a backup striker.

  • John

    Theo: Makoun could absolutely play CMF in a 4-4-2. Last year he demonstrated his skill as an attacker: he got foward, sprayed the ball around very effectively and was our third leading scorer I think.

  • Ronan

    WOOh 25mill for Gignac is way to much,Lyon would be far better off buying Kleber for 10mill and then Bastos for 15mill,with that cash

    http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.francefootball.fr/F...

  • Ronan

    A.Gignac is better now than Remy,but Remy Im sure will become much better than Gignac in seasons to come-so I prefer Remy,but Nice are being firm so getting him is unlikely.

    B.I know Lisandro is much more effective in the centre of attack,I never mentioned him on the wing,I meant him as a right forward like last season at Porto-but never ever on the wing no-that would be stupid,but he was most effective before last season in the centre for sure as he is a natural goal scorer-simple.

    C.Id much rather Bastos than Rami,I mean I like Rami but theres always others but Rami,Apam,Diakhate,Miranda,Ciani,Lugano etc. Where as Bastos is a special talent-we need him and according to reports Lyon will step up there persuit of Gignac and Bastos-which is excellant but I do hope lyon go for a CB and a LB this summer.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    Ronan:
    -What do you think who is better Remy or Gignac?
    -Also,Lisandro is much more effective as a striker than as a winger.
    -I dont think that Lille is going to sell us Bastos and Rami it will be prolly just one of them.

  • Ronan

    Lisandro played on the right of a 4-3-3 for Porto last season,albeit it was more literally like a 4-3-3 than a 4-5-1,Lisandro hasnt really played on the wing,it was more a right striker in a 4-3-3. But his fox-in-the-box game style more suits a central role. 07/08 in the centre 24 league goals last year-right forward 10 goals-but that may be a coincedance but I doubt it. I think

    Lloris
    Clerc-Rami-Boumsong-Cissokho
    Ederson-Toulalan-Makoun-Bastos
    Lisandro-Gignac

    thats the best,even though I dont like Ederson on the right wing-but thats OK,as Ive showed you we can change shapes with that team and Ederson can cut inside.

  • Ronan

    Bastos-14mill,Rami-9mill,Gignac-15mill,Cissokho-14mill on top of Lisandro for 23mill makes us very,very hopeful to Lyon,but signing all of those is very possible if we pay the money. Yer Theo the third one was just a experimental,joker type but for me the first is best

  • lefutur

    the 4-4-2 you drew looks ideal to me. don't know if lisandro can play right striker in the 4-3-3...i guess he could.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    RONAN:
    1st formation-Solid
    2nd formation-Very good
    3rd formation-Completly SHIT

  • Ronan

    4-2-3-1

    Lloris
    Clerc-Boumsong-Rami-Cissokho
    Toulalan-Makoun
    Gignac-Ederson-Bastos
    Lisandro

    You see I have mentioned 4 or 5 lineups there for the same team,not only does the team look very strong on paper,but also it can change and adapt to many different formations during a game,depending on the situation. I think maybe with luch semi-final Cl-but that is with luck but at least the QF

  • Ronan

    with
    Lloris
    Clerc-Rami-Boumsong-Cissokho
    Ederson-Toulalan-Makoun
    Lisandro-Gignac-Bastos

    it is very flexable for changing formations,you could change to 4-4-2

    Lloris
    Clerc-Rami-Boumsong-Cissokho
    Ederson-Makoun-Toulalan-Bastos
    Lisandro-Gignac

    3-4-3(bit mad)
    Lloris
    Boumsong-Rami
    Toulalan
    Clerc-Makoun-Ederson-Cissokho
    Bastos
    Lisandro-Gignac

  • Ronan

    4-3-1-2 Accomodates players but,having just Ederson as the main creativity is worrying I think Ederson and Bastos have to play with one another-that way creating wont be questionable.

    Lloris
    Clerc-Boumsong-Rami-Cissokho
    Ederson-Toulalan-Makoun
    Lisandro-Gignac-Bastos

    that looks very strong

  • aleksander

    mm, ur prolly right Theo, but it could be a pretty solid CL lineup:P, anyways, i as everyone else want to see an attacking Lyon, so 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 would prolly be the answer. I just think a 4-3-1-2 fits perfectly for us if we get gignac

  • Theo Walcott 14

    http://goal.com/en/news/11/tra...
    Aleksander:
    Noone today is playing with three DMs!!!!And if we are going to play 4-4-2,in that formation or Makoun or Toulalan couldnt play and they are our best players.

  • Shadow

    nah Dhaw, it says we're interested in Menez, But then again, Lyon are interested in everyone these days. But i dont ever really see Lyon going after Menez ever.

  • aleksander

    I we get gignac, i would hope for a 4-3-1-2 formation:
    Lloris
    Clerc Cris mensah/boumsong Grosso/Cissokho
    Makoun Toula Vierira
    Ederson
    Gignac Lisandro

    I believe our midfield would be impossible to break trough, and with ederson, making it creative.

  • Ronan

    I could never see Bodmer breaking past Gallas,Mexes,Boumsong,Sakho,Squillaci,Escude,Rami. What the hell is he thinking ? He is a talented midfielder and he himself thinks hes an average CB. For me he is the prime example of am unmotivated,greedy footballer. Had he had any ambition of playing for France or even at club level regularly he would no he would have to leave here-he obviously just wants the contract.For me if I was Bodmer I would be desperate to leave-its either not played at all or played in an unfavorable position-so being treated like crap.

  • John

    Dhaw: My disgust had nothing to do with the fact that one of our youth products kissed the badge of another team, it's just that I HATE REAL!!!! While I'm at it, Man U and AC Milan too. Had it been Barca, Arsenal or a host of other clubs, I wouldn't have cared.

  • John

    POL: I wondered the same thing also: if Puel will abandon his beloved 4-5-1 if we get two quality strikers. I think if you have Lisandro and Gignac, you have no choice. It's just impossible to not play both at the same time, even for Puel. I think maybe he'll be forced to adapt: going for the kill early in the game, with all that firepower, then retreating into a defensive formation late in the match.

  • John

    Kubi: I was thinking the same about Bodmer and the NT. There's almost no way he'd break into the midfield, and me and someone else suggested that a while back: him becoming a CB due to the paucity of good CBs on the NT, and people called me crazy. He has great height for that postion and maybe with an entire season at the position could better his skill enough, but I don't see him starting unless Cris really screws-up and Mensah is chronically injured again.

  • Pride of Lyon

    Even if we sign Gignac, do you really think chilly Puel will play with 2 strikers? I think he will end up playing with only one striker and we will end up with the same situation we had with Benzema and Fred.
    I don't see Puel starting to use Tafer... don't rejoice yourselves. Lyon's main problem last year hasn't been the players, but the tactics.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    Sam:
    I read that the transfer will be finalised until the 24th July.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    http://www.ligue1.com/ligue1/l...
    If Gignac comes than Remy probably wont even if I prefer Remy over Gignac.He is tehnicaly much better,faster and can play as striker and as winger.

  • Sam

    has the Lopez deal been finalised yet? I was under the impression it hadn't

  • Ronan

    I wish we had signed Brandao,Marseille payed 5.5mill for him and now hes worth about 17mill,he had everything to trouble defenders-6"3,built like a tank and fast-nightmare for defenders.

  • Ronan

    Gignac wants to come he says about not missing the oppertunity to join Lyon,I actually feel bad when Lyon bull other french clubs for there players(Makoun,Bodmer,Keita,Pjanic,Lloris,Ederson etc)but obviously I am happy. At first I didnt like Gignac-I thought he was just a flash in the pan whos form and luck would end-but it didnt and 24 league goals is very good-so now I want him. Lisandro is 5"8.5,Gignac is 6"1.5,so it looks a well balanced partnership,Lisandro can score more on the ground,and Gignac can get headers in-but both can play well in the air so no probs. Surely Toulouse will have to sell now,when the player says he wants to leave for the most part that is a massive step to the negotians. Lloris,Clerc,?,Boumsong,?,Ederson,Makoun,Toulalan,Bastos,Gignac,Lisandro

  • Dhaw

    Hey and we are not giving you Menez.

    Even though he defies gravity, he is one for the future for us at AS ROMA.

  • Dhaw

    I understand the anguish here.
    If any of our Roman Youth product and fan fav would have kissed someone else's badge I would be pissed.

    Oh well... that's modern football for everyone.

    So how is the money going to be used ???

  • Shadow

    thats better lol.

  • Ronald ---> Shadow

    just looked at the comments and i could se someone confusing my posts with Ronan's. So ima change it to Shadow.....less confusion.

  • Ronald

    would be a bad move in my opinion ( club career wise ) he has the vision for a midfielder.

    Maybe he's doing it to better his chances for playing with Les Bleus, since they aren't swimming in CB's at the moment.

  • kubi

    according to the clubs website, Bodmer seems to be leaning towards taking over the CB role

  • Ronald

    A fan threw *

  • Ronald

    The badge kissing didnt really affect me that much. They forced all their signings to do it ( abiol was forced to do it and didnt want to cause he's a true Valencia fan).

    The part that made me gag was when i fan through a Real scarf near him...he causally picked it up and embraced it and had a smug smile on his face when he did it...

    Fuck Him :'( .....

  • John
  • John

    Hey Ronald, I swear I was just going to write the same thing! Did you see when he was kissing the Real emblem on his kit? I almost threw-up my diner! SICKENING!!!! THIS IS ALL ZIDANE'S FAULT!!!

  • Ronald

    watching Benzema being presented to Madrid made me sick....the kinda sickness that isn't going to go away for a while.

    sigh.

  • John

    I think Bastos is worth the 18mill and I can't remember when I've been so desperate to purchase a player, but since no one else is knocking on Lille's door right now- there were those rumors of Tottenham getting ready to offer 14mill- which is really strange, I think we are in the driver's seat and can afford to haggle.

    As for Cohen, he knows that he can keep Remy this year and that JMA will be the first in line next year to buy him at 16mill if not more, depending on what Remy does this season and the off chance he makes the WC team. I think he should take it now, because 16 + Mounier is like 18mill and I imagine Remy sill go for a little less than 16mill next year unless he sinks like 20+ goals.

    Also, I'd rather those Cissokho rumors weren't true and we can get Santos, if Grosso leaves. Cissokho seems like he'll jump ship the first chance he gets.

  • Ronan

    I dont get the Nice presidant,he really really wants to keep Remy,we know Remy is talented but Cohan is acting as if he is of Benzemas stature-maybe thats the way to negotiate if your a good presidant but hey-it pisses me off because I wont Remy here. Lyon should move abroad with targets,its obvious Remy and Gignac wont come so we are wasting time,when we could have done a deal for someone else in that time.

  • Ronan

    Yer keita was in-and-out of form,lazy,rightly said he was selfish and uncreative and he wasnt evn that quick anyway. Bastos is Brazilian-meaning,flair and creative and silky skills really.

  • Ronan

    I think with Apam/Diakhate/Miranda Bastos,Remy,Lisandro,Sanogo/Mbokani/Afonso Alves Lyon could be quite exceptional

  • aleksander

    You'r right about that John, i just want our club to secure those players. With a LW and LB, and maybe CB, we would have far more potential of reaching Quarters or maybe Semis in Cl, and winning the league.

    For me Bastos has this little extra...If he'd been playing for a better club, he would be considered world class. Keita may be speedy and a okay dribbler, but his touch on the ball is horrible, he have no vision or creativity. I think it was easier for him in Lille, where the opposite teams didn't shut down so much. Bastos has it all, and i'm sure he would be able to become a star in Lyon.

  • Ronan

    Lloris
    Clerc-Pape Diakhate/Miranda/Apam-Boumsong-Grosso
    Ederson-Toulalan-Makoun
    Remy-Lisandro-Bastos

  • Ronan

    .Im happy Lisandro is here despite the expense.Im certainly more happy that Lisandro is here than having 22 mill in the bank still.Im sure we could get Bastos for 14mill,I think Bastos is different to Keita,keita was always incosistent and had issues before Lille in quatar/tunisia with form,where Bastos has been solid for three seasons,also there is a greater need for Bastos now than there was when we signed Keita.As for the 3 stiker being Soumah-no hes not a striker but yer theo everything else is real good. If we keep Grosso and buy Bastos we dont need Cissokho,besides with every transfer there is a risk of the player being a flop,its a risk with all transfers,but with the right players,Bastos for instance,of quality the risk is considrably lower.

  • Ronan

    to be honest i am a fan so obviously its no skin off my nose if lyon paid 22 or 100 million for lisandro-but it certainly is for whoevers bank account its coming from. We do say to put extra money in as if 2,3,4mill is nothing-in football its not much but think about it in the outside world its huge.But as we have the money,or so Aulas is always saying,we should spend it on making the team better with decent recruits. I see where John is coming from with Aulas paying the ransom if you like for Lisandro,but for me Im just glad to have the player and Im guessing management shared the same view-I just think it was silly how we made the bid before OMs bid For Gonzalez,had we done it before that we would have had 3mill knocked off

  • John

    Alot of people talk about splurging money on players like it's nothing. This is a business. Paying the asking price for a player you want to bring-in is ludicrous. You may be unable to bargain down, but you have to try. People have the mentality the football mercato is like going to the supermarket: you just pay the price on the sticker and be done with it. Don't forget, we are a selling club, so obviously we have to buy low and sell high, although lately we've just been buying high and selling a tiny bit higher. And then there are those flops like Keita and probably Mensah who are/might be losses. Anyway, ee aren't Real- not that they pay the asking price either, just look at Benzema- where we have other sectors of the community subsidizing our purchases, therefore we can spend outrageous amounts of cash that would normally bankrupt a club or eat-up their transer budget quickly if those entities weren't around to help. I'm glad Lisandro is coming, but am I the only one who's dissapointed that JMA caved-in to that extortion so quickly? I don't know; I don't know alot about transfer negotiantions yet, but I wonder how do Cohen, Seydoux and Sardan view that? There's blood in the water I suppose.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    Ronan dont forget how Keita played in Lille he was better than Bastos now for me.Who has the guarantee that Bastos wouldnt be also a flop like Keita was?
    I would also like that we buy Bastos but you are talking like keita was never a good player!
    Now we need to buy a CB,LB,LM and 2STs!
    -CB-Miranda,24(Sao Paulo;8mil€)
    -LB-Cissokho,21(Porto;13mil€)
    -LM-Bastos,25(OSC Lille;14mil€)
    -ST 1.-Remy,22(OGC Nice;14mil€)
    -ST 2.-Soumah,22(EA Guingamp;3mil€)
    What do you think about this players?

  • aleksander

    I don't fucking care how much they cost. We have money, we know it, cmon! We bought keita for 18m, we should buy bastos for the same. And cissokho for 15m even though he's worth around 7

  • Ronan

    well if keita is worth 18mill which we payed then Bastos is worth 50mill,he would be special.

  • John

    Hahahaha. Just kidding Ronan. I know how much you "love" Menez.
    I think Bastos is a must sign. M. Seydoux is just setting the negotiations in motion with that 18mill valuation. I'm sure they're looking for 15, and he's not going to piss Aulas off since we have good, familial relations with Lille- they being our feeder club- and JMA is always generous and pays top money for their players. Even if we have to pay 18- which I'm not advocating- he's an impact player and will resolve so man of our problems: passing, scoring, leftsided vacancy, free kicks, speed and dribbling, he can almost do it all. I get more excited about him than the strikers. He would be the bedrock of our offense for years to come. Hope it happens.

  • Ronan

    it says on the site that Lyon are in negotions with Aly Cissokho

  • Ronan
  • Ronan

    Menez is so overated I would rather not sign anyone than sign him

  • Ronan

    Menez is so overated I would rather not sign anyone than sihn him

  • Theo Walcott 14

    John:
    I also think that Menez would be good but:
    http://goal.com/en/news/11/tra...

  • Ronan

    I hat Menez-the most overated player of the new genration of french players he is crap. For me Bastos is perfect,his versatility is just one factor I like,he is quick,creative,dribbles well and is a leader-I think he last season lead Lille a few times and he was always vocal on the pitch. Also I have a soft spot for Brazil internationals-if Bastos comes and does well he will get into the Brazil team,and I want Lyon to have a Brazil international. But Bastos ability is obviously the main reason.He will lay passes on a plate for Lisandro to knock in.Top assister in France last year.Theres quite a lot of of decent LWs around but Bastos is the best for us-and if we have the money for him,which we are supposed to,then its poor management refusing to strengthen for the sake of keeping cash.I think the soumah being a forward was just a mistake,often you here things like that common ones are Kaka being a striker amongst others its just speech sake.

  • aleksander

    I also hope and believe that it is only negotiating tactics with bastos. Cmon, we were willing to offer 14m or something while theyw ant 18? 4m? That isn't too much, hopefully we'll be able to buy him, if not then we definately need another LW.

  • John

    If the Bastos thing doesn't work-out, there's always Menez. What do you think Ronan?
    And that G. Obertan went completely under my radar this season. I had no idea he was on Man U's radar.

  • John

    Someone asked about Soumah: http://www.francefootball.fr/F...

    It says he should decide over the weekend. The article also says that he's a center foward. I always thought he was solely a leftsided player, but hopefully he is and we have someone to compete with Tafer and Piq at third striker.

  • John
  • John

    Bastos too expensive? I agree, but let's hope this the beginning of negotiations and they work the price down to about 15mill; maybe throw in Mounier and bring it down a little further. I'm dissapointed that JMA caved-in so easily to Porto, now that will make this negotion all the more difficult.
    And Marseille are starting to scare the crap out of me. Hopefully that Huntelaar rumor is false.

  • Ronan

    Shit I think Huntelaar is joining Marseille,when I look at Marseilles squad it is very strong,not only the strongest in France but also probably QF Cl as well

  • Caiio

    WE NEED KLEBER!!!

  • lefutur

    ^^^aulas is trying to bring the price down by saying Lyon arent interested anymore. standard negotiating procedure.

  • Ronan

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/90...

    shame Aulas is being tight again here,the we have kallstrom bit from Lacombe really pisses me off that they will settle for poor players down the left for the sake of saving money. But maybe there is hope with,it looks now that we will sign Lisandro-but remember this-

    http://www.portugoal.net/index...

    so that gives me hope,Aulas said he wouldnt match Portos asking price but he did,so hopefull give it a week or so he will match Lilles price.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    http://www.transfermarketweb.c...
    http://www.transfermarketweb.c...
    Aulas is to slow,we need 20 days just to buy one player.

  • Ronan

    http://209.85.229.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.francefootball.fr/F...

    thats just fucked what Lacombe says-saying we have players like Kallstrom for left wing-how is that good enough to be playing players out of position for the whole season to accomodate the left wing ? I thought Bastos was like 14mill,not 18 anyway

  • John
  • Ronan

    Lloris
    Clerc-Apam-Boumsong-Santos/Grosso
    Toulalan-Makoun
    Delgado/Govou-Ederson-Bastos
    Lisandro

    second team-

    Vercoutre
    Reveillere-Cris-Mensah-Bastos
    Delgado-Pjanic-Kallstrom-Mounier
    Sanogo-Tafer

    (although it is questionable how many of those players would settle for that)

  • Ronan

    I think Kallstrom should stay but Bodmer leave,if Bodmer leaves are midfield will look more balanced with Santos,Juninho and Bodmer leaving-we should offer Kallstrom a new contract as I feel has a lot of unfinished business here,I think if he played in a more attacking role,like behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1,we would see the real Kallstrom,when I look at his goal scoring record for clubs before Lyon-his record was as good as a striker in Sweden and for Rennes. I think Bodmer should be used in a player+cash deal for a Ligue 1 player target,such as Bastos,Apam,Gignac,Remy etc. Although I know Bodmer has talent but fuck it sum one has to go so I say him.About Mounier-who the fuck does he think he is ? He has potential we saw that last season,but he has never done anything special to warrent big interest,he should be pleased with a 15 minute a game role at Lyon.

  • John

    Mounier won't stay as a back-up. And It's a shame about Bodmer being pushed to back-up CB, he's a profesional who rarely complains, like Kallstrom. But even if Kallstrom leaves, CMF is still a position that is overloaded, and he can't play on the sides which would present a possiblity for more time. I think they should loan him so when it's time to sell, they can make a profit or even include him in some of these packages for other players, if he agrees that is.

  • Ronan

    I like Remy-Lisandro-Bastos,and with a back up of Delgado-Sanogo-Mounier. Apam is a good cb-not very tall,which isnt good,but he works hard and positions and tackles well I think he is very effective,so I would welcome him here.

  • Stanley

    thats if lyon wanted to play 3 DMFs

  • Stanley

    you know who i could see in our starting Xi depending on the formation...Bodmer. We haven't really used him well at all but when we have he has showed a lot of class

  • Theo Walcott 14

    Sorry,Cissokho is a LB so i would put Fanni instead of him.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    I am not sure that the Remy transfer is dead,we all tought that benzema will stay this season and than he was gone.Everything is possible.
    Lloris
    Cissokho-Boumsong-Apam-A.Santos
    Ederson-Makoun-Toulalan-M.Bastos
    Lisandro-Remy
    A team like this would be great but its hard to fit in Govou in this formation.
    Does anyone know what happend with the Soumah transfer??

  • Ronan

    I think for the left side,if we keep all the Left side players meaning Kallstrom,Grosso and Mounier,then I think with Bastos we will be fine down the left. I want another CB rehardless weather Mensah leaves or not,Im still not convinced with are CBs-I dont think they are really good enough for tough CL games,thats why I want just one more solid one to be good for the CL. I think one more striker-preferably costing about 8mill,and then letting Tafer be number 3 and get games under his belt. So with Lisandro and Bastos I thin we just need a striker and a CB to be a really interesting team to watch.

  • John

    Yeah, the Remy thing is dead, and JMA should just offer a couple of mill under what he's willing to pay, that way if Gignac really wants to leave, he'll start pushing on his end, but 11 mill + Piquionne? The Bastos situation looks good. The price is right, he seems interested, and no other club seems to be in the picture; we must swoop him-up now. He'll be gone this winter. I would love another high-profile, older striker, a LB and maybe a CB if Mensah leaves.

  • Ronan

    I think Bastos is there for the taking-I reckon Lille are willing to sell for about 15mill,and Bastos wouldnt mind coming. I think get him,keep Grosso,Mounier and then we are sorted down the left-then all we need is 1/2 strikers and a CB to be really competitive

  • Ronan

    Yer there targets at the minute are stupid-Toulouse and Nice have both made it clear that Gignac and Remy wont be leaving,so unless management know otherwise whats the point in persuing them-its wasting time when we could be moving for someone else.Vieira is really baffeling-if we want a profile/leader type why dont we get a experienced CB ? We should sign Bastos,either keep or sell Grosso,but if sell I heard Milan had dropped there interest in Andre Santos. Naybe try for Martins and Sanogo as support for Lisandro,not two good strikers but OK for a bench role-we have been linked with Martins recently

  • John

    Why are they still after this? http://www.goal.com/en/news/11...
    Unless we're going to play a 4-5-1 with three CMFs, the whole season, this is a bad move. Just when you think the midfield may become unclogged, they contemplate something like this. I wish they would focus on the real necessities.

  • Theo Walcott 14
  • Ronan

    Aleksander-Remy,Lopez,Bastos,Lisandro-Good. Trezeguet-not Good-Im sorry hes past it after being out for the whole of last season,that would really affect a 32 year old,he is slow,he will have to play every game-he wont settle for anything else,we will have to build formations around him like with Juni,in this case we will need a 4-4-2,and the only reason we want him is for his former profile-its not good business

  • aleksander

    Just pray to god we will get Bastos. Lyon are trying to build a really speedy attack, who can break down defenses and run after trough balls, great I say! Imagine a lightning speedy attack of Ederson, bastos, lisandro and remy, would scare the shit out of defenders!

  • lefutur

    ^^agreed. Playing Lopez alone up top would be similar to what happened with playing Benz as a lone striker. If you combined Trez or another fox-in-the-box type striker with Lopez the goals would surely multiply.

  • aleksander

    I believe signing Trezeguet would be a good move, he's an experienced goalgetter. As far as i'm concerned, Lisandro lopes's goaltally isn't that fantastic (a player comparable to Tevez?), and adding trezeguet would make us more dangerous in the box.

  • Ronan

    Its true Lopez has a high price tag but really who else would we have signed with that money-certainly no one who has the quality of Lopez who would be welcomeing to join us. Lisandro was available to us and he was the best ST to possibly sign for OL,and when you especially consider OL sold Benzema for 35mill-there would be no excuse for bulking at a lower price tag for Lopez-when he was the best we could get. He should be a hit,Im still cautious he isnt an OL player just yet,he is an impressive forward,strong,direct,links well,good finisher,good heading fairly desent pace and a good positional sense not to mention his big work rate. For me if all goes to plan your looking at 20-25 ligue 1 goals next season,on top of a fair share in the cl-looking forward to seeing him,I wonder now which other striker we will sign,it doesnt have to be an expencive ST though a sub-I say Sanogo,cheap with potential.

  • aleksander

    But then we could always swap Delgado with Govou or Remy, as IMO they are better players

  • Ronan

    I agree I think Delgado-Lisandro-Bastos would be very good,all a bit short in height but most certainly good players. For me Apam/Lugano,Bastos,Remy,Sanogo as well as Lopez makes for a solid squad of players who should get to the CL QF stage.

    Lloris
    Clerc-Apam-Boumsong-Grosso
    Toulalan-Makoun
    Delgado-Ederson-Bastos
    Lisandro

    subs-Vercoute,Reveillere,Cris(he wont like this),Kallstrom,Pjanic,Remy,Govou

    trouble is would the likes of Sanogo,Govou and Remy be content with the bench-probably not.

  • lefutur

    I also think Lyon need to start looking for another CB but the priority should be getting Bastos stat! Him and Lopez would form a formidable threat!

  • Stanley
  • Ronan

    Sanogo,Remy and Lopez solves ST,LW/LB,Bastos solves and then I would just ask management for a centre back-Diego Lugano/apam and then we are really sorted

  • Ronan

    Lisandro is world class,now four or five more and we are set.

  • Theo Walcott 14

    Now its time that we sign another player for the CB and LB position,we have another 11mil from the benzema money and at least 30mil from our budget so we have 40mil for new players.And we should buy another striker as back up for Lisandro.Maybe we should buy a perspective,young and not to expensive player form the Ligue 2.

  • aleksander

    Great, Lisandro! Good start in the market, now a LB, LW, another striker, then we'll be set. If we can get Michel Bastos, i believe our 4-3-3 could be world class, both in midfield and attack.

  • cana

    we will see keita will be well or not..
    actually we thank you all for baros..

  • Theo Walcott 14

    Finnaly a new striker!!But i think that 24-28mil is to much

  • kubi

    YES!!! 24-28mil is very steep for someone we should of had for 20 but still i am happy to finally see him signed.

  • Matt

    http://goal.com/en/news/11/tra...

    Finally confirmed. The price is a bit steep but at least we have a striker.

  • Jao

    Aulas looks like he will force the Bastos sell. Hopes its complete by the end of the week.

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