

Are Lyon Bad Parents?
By: Inara | April 18th, 2008It’s a difficult question for any club wanting to be more successful. Do they trust in their academy graduates, or do they spend money on bringing in young players of slightly more established quality?
Lyon, eager to join the elite group of European superclubs, have in recent years veered towards the latter. And who can blame them? While it’s romantic to imagine a club full of homegrown talent, it won’t lead to the success and dominance that they crave. It’s easier and less risky to simply buy the best players out there, as opposed to taking the time to nurture homegrown French talent. Football is global now, and as Lyon continue to grow, their squad will reflect that.

Having failed to make the grade at Lyon, Plessis is shining at Liverpool.
It’s why the recent craze over Clement Grenier has really piqued my interest. On one hand, I want Lyon to hold on to such a highly touted prospect, but on the other hand, I have to ask myself honestly, would staying at Lyon be a good move for him? After all, if a club produces a top prospect, it’s their responsibility to play him. What else is the point in having an elite academy? It’s unreasonable - and unfair - to expect them to sit around in the reserves until they are needed.
I don’t want to make it seem like Lyon don’t care about their academy. They do care. At least enough to invest in constantly improving facilities and better coaches. Just last summer, Lyon replaced long time academy overseer Alain Olio with George Prost, the guy who unearthed Theo Walcott, Gareth Bale, and Mathieu Flamini. The club continues to scout all over the world for talent to add to their youth ranks, the most recent additions being Stephen Ettien and Matias Chiacchio. And Lyon is very proud of the fact that there are several youth internationals, representing countries such as France, Argentina, Italy, and Portugal, scattered throughout all levels.
But will Lyon give these players a chance? Because despite all appearances to the contrary, Lyon aren’t particularly good at utilizing their academy graduates and have a poor track record at promoting from within. While the current senior squad boasts three such players - Sidney Govou, Francois Clerc, and Karim Benzema (Hatem Ben Arfa started out at Clairefontaine) - there are many more young OL graduates who aren’t given any opportunities to prove themselves. And here I should also point out that the only reason Clerc and Benzema got their chances was because of injuries to other players.
It would be easy to say that Lyon’s youth players aren’t that good, and certainly there are better academies in France (well, not too many - Rennes, Clairefontaine, and perhaps a few others), but that’s simply not true. Of course very few are gems like Benzema, but are some of them good enough to be squad players at Lyon? Yes.
In recent years, Lyon have forced players like Frederic Kanoute, Jeremy Clement, and Loic Remy to seek playing time elsewhere. Look at Kanoute now, and Clement has been putting in strong performances for PSG. As for Remy - he’s simply blossomed at Lens and was scoring regularly until he picked up his injury. In fact, he was so impressive that he was called up by Raymond Domenech, whereas at Lyon he was ignored for months at a time.
Last week, Damien Plessis, another such OL academy reject who is now at Liverpool, complained about Lyon’s inability to trust their young players. A talented prospect who had been wilting for two years in Lyon’s reserves, he made a deadline day move last August to Liverpool, a team that has an even more crowded midfield than Lyon. But in just eight months, he impressed Rafa Benitez so much that he made his debut appearance against Arsenal with what was a very strong performance.
Lyon’s abysmal reading of the situation regarding Plessis is so awful it’s almost funny, especially given how Lyon are seriously planning to spend a lot of money to keep Barcelona’s Marc Crosas, a player no better than Plessis, who would have been free for us.
Plessis had this to say about Lyon:
It’s incomprehensible. They are the champions, but they do not play their youth. A player like Anthony Mounier is good and has quality, but it’s a pity that he isn’t allowed to play. Even some of the players on the reserve team deserve to have a chance. But in France, they prefer not to take risks and don’t give them enough chances.
He makes a good point about Mounier, who had a great pre-season with Lyon and whom I’ve been wanting to see play all year. But he inexplicably disappeared this year, and even in games that Lyon win by big margins, Alain Perrin prefers to play his veterans as opposed to giving Mounier some minutes. So I’ll be entirely unsurprised if Mounier asks to leave come June. After all, that’s what Loic Remy and Sandy Paillot did (though they are out on loan). Another prospect, Romain Beynie, seems to be permanently called up the senior team but permanently ignored on the bench. He will probably also leave this summer.

Lyon’s Class of 1987 hasn’t been heard from since graduation.
In this next month, Lyon will be examining the 1988 generation of players and seeing if there is anyone worthy enough for a professional contract. The three big names are Francesco Migliore, Aurelien Badin, and Lossamy Karaboue, all of whom have been putting in strong and steady displays with the reserves and who certainly deserve at least a chance to prove they might have a place at Lyon. But all three know that past history isn’t on their side, and they’re aware that they might not get their chances. While their ultimate goal is to win a place at Lyon, they would rather move to a different club than be forced to endure countless more seasons in the reserves.
For many, I suppose Lyon’s failing battle to maintain the balance between their academy and their desire for high profile signings has come out of left field, but the warning signs were apparent even last September. And the situation has deteriorated since then. The success of Plessis at Liverpool will no doubt encourage other OL graduates to follow a similar path, and we may start seeing a situation similar to the one at Barca, who regularly lose some of their top prospects to rival clubs simply because they can’t provide space for the players they carefully trained.
So going back to Grenier, even though Lyon are planning to offer him a three year contract, maybe it’s best for him to leave. After all, how can Grenier believe that Lyon see him as a player for the future when the club is chasing after Metz’s Miralem Pjanic? Does it really make sense to pay Grenier - and with the number of big clubs chasing him, Lyon would have to pay him a lot - to play in Lyon’s reserves?
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The excellent Florent Balmont is a Lyon reject too.
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Lyon should really give their chance to young players.
What was the point in buying Delgado for €7m when we have Mounier or Remy in the squad?
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All we need to do is to loan those young players who don’t have enough playing time.
I hope to see Mounier next year in another Ligue 1’s team.Posted from
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If Lyon has sold Plessis, it’s because he isn’t so good !
I have read, Lyon is the third team, who has given the biggest number of players, who play in Europe.
First and Second Metz and MadridPosted from
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Balmont! Now there’s a tidy player that we are definitely missing.
Goug, Plessis is doing good enough for Liverpool, Champions League semifinalists this year. He would have been a great option to back up Toulalan.
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Guys, the Offside is starting a section devoted to player specific blogs. Cristiano Ronaldo and Beckham are already taken. But everyone else is fair game…like Benzema and Ben Arfa for example.
If you’re interested in writing a blog devoted to one specific player, check out this link.Posted from
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Don’t forget that Remy Riou left Lyon for the same reason! He is such a good prospect and could have been competing with Lloris and Mandanda. And last year we had to part with Gregory Bettiol and Jonathon Mendes, among some others.
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Riou is a bit different because it’s hard to give playing time to goalies. And Riou left before Coupet’s injury.
I also think Riou would not sign a new deal if he was going to be loaned.
What Aulas should have done is to assure the guy the starting role after another one year loan and negociate with Coupet a departure next summer (very likely IMO, except that Lyon will have to buy a Lloris a hefty price).Posted from
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Fact is Lyon are just too big-headed and that happens after winning 6 consecutive championship. I mean early on in during the title runs, they did play their young players. Berthod, Bergougnoux, Diarra, Viale, etc., The problem is no of them play for Lyon any more and after winning all those titles, you want to continue winning and waiting on youth players to fully develop (some like Benzema, Ben Arfa, Giuly, Govou develop faster, while some may take a couple of years) is just nerve-wrecking.
However, Lyon should wait on these players. I watch Ligue 2 all the time and Mourad Benhamida, Sandy Paillot, and Gregory Bettiol should be playing Ligue 1 football. Bettiol probably will be. I mean you sign Cesar Delgado and he’s practically been nothing of a factor, when you could have just put Mounier on the right side in a backup role.
I do think though barring any injuries Matias Chiacchio might get called up the first team and with Muller now packing his bags Paillot or another youth player might get some time.
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Inara, look at Chelsea, Both Milan or Arsenal. They don’t have just a single player from their academy in best eleven. Lyon fans don’t need to worry about that at all!!!
I think Lyon’s youth system is the best in all over Europe. Even it’s now better than Ajax’s system which has been thought of to be the textbook on growing up youths. Remember Benzema and Benarfa are also the academy graduates.
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Look guys, maybe Plessis are not that good as he speak now when he is at Liverpool. It’s easy to speak badly about club when you don’t play. Example Fred, he play very small part in Perrin’s plans. But now when he plays a full part of games, he is happy, want stay and even extend his contract. Lyon must give chance to all youth players, but only if they are good. Question for you Inara : Would you, when you play against Monaco at Stade Louis II, put in first 11 Remy or Keita, Remy plays bad and Keita is in best shape. Think about that and answer to me.
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GrosooOOOOOO
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Caen 2 x 0 PSG
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Phew we made hard work of the first half but thanks to one red card and a much better second half we came away with a vital three points.
Does anyone have any news on Benzema’s injury?Posted from
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Could someone post the starting formation please. Couldn’t watch the game. Thanks.
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I just got back. Benzema got INJURED???
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I didnt get to see the game either ( ive been sleeping like a Hibernating bear, which people sometimes calls me )
Dont tell me Benzema got Injured again !!!!
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He went off at 35″ from an injury. There’s nothing more on the website. Not good news.
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nooooooooooooooooooo, not again !!!
he got injured again, supposedly he was cluthing his left knee and was subbed for Sidney Govou.
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L’Equipe is saying that the injury should be only a matter of days - oh pleeeeease let that be true.
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That’s really bad luck.
We always get injured the players who has no back up on the bench…
That was pretty difficult yesterday. Strasbourg had to win to hope not being relegated.
3 points, that’s only things that count.Benz may be out only a few days.
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I’m just glad it’s for a couple of days. True he’ll miss the game against Caen, but I’d rather have him well rested and ready to be back than rushed back with the chance of reinjuring himself. Hopefully Fred will be ready by next week, and if Ben Arfa plays, maybe we can manage.
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I forgot to mention the good news. Lyon have officially qualified for the Champions League next season. Even if they lose all their remaining games and Bordeaux won all of theirs, Lyon would still be guaranteed second place since Nancy could only manage a draw this weekend. So Lyon have directly qualified for the CL and don’t have to worry about the qualifying phase.
Also, I wanted to point out that we have four remaining games left. Caen and Nancy are at home, Nice and Auxerre are away. I don’t see Caen and Nancy beating Lyon at home, but they are capable of getting a draw. Nice is hard to predict, and Auxerre is capable of getting a draw with us.
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Damn, Micoud scored in the last minute of the Bordeaux game against Toulouse, and now they’re back in the title race. I really don’t know if I should be irritated by this constant danger of Lyon losing the title, or happy because of some fierce competition at the top, along with the fact that there is now an another truly consistent performer going to the CL next year, and if Marseille manages to outbattle Nancy to 3rd place - there will be three! And I was wondering, would France be the only country in Europe without a team from the capital in the top flight if PSG gets relegated?
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